The President speaks!

[JeffM]

Apparently Obama was as courageous as the SEALs.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100086873/former-us-ambassador-to-pakistan-barack-obama-showed-as-much-courage-as-our-navy-seals/

What a bunch of Obama @ss-kissers.

It was a "gutsy" call.  GUTSY.  Let me spell it out for you... G - U - T - S - Y.
Truth hurts, don't it?
When you gonna MAN UP and remove that POS avatar of yours?

http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/Obama2002War.htm

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure that...we vigorously enforce a nonproliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

[guido911]

^^^^

Another Obama @ss-kisser weighs in.

[Gaspar]

It was a "gutsy" call.  GUTSY.  Let me spell it out for you... G - U - T - S - Y.
Truth hurts, don't it?
When you gonna MAN UP and remove that POS avatar of yours?

http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/Obama2002War.htm

I actually agree this was a gutsy move for someone who has always acted as an appeaser.  I think it showed real balls (and not just the white dimpled kind).  He took the actions of an American President for the first time since his election.

Now I also doubt he had much of a choice.  They had OBL, and knew it.  They had to act.  Killing was the only option.  Death from above would never render a positive ID, the body had to be brought back.  They couldn't take him prisoner, because where would they put him?  Can't take him to trial.  Can't use GITMO.  Can't interrogate without ACLU and over a thousand other international groups trying to get involved.  Hot lead was the only option and our president delivered!

I still have a hard time envisioning a bunch of navy seals engaged in the Salatul Janazah.  They must have had a whole congregation of Muslim seals who carried out the mission.

According to the written rituals, the body is to be washed an odd number of times.

Once the body has been washed, Sharia calls for it to be enshrouded with a Kafan. The Kafan is made up of three pieces for a male and five pieces for a female made of cotton or linen.  There is a special way to apply the Kafan.  The left hand is placed over the chest and the right hand is placed into the left, a position usually associated with prayer.  Islamic tradition calls for a series of prayers called Salatul Janazah to be said in silence.

If there is threat that the body may be degraded after death, burrial at sea after the Salatul Janazah is permissible.

Our Seals are highly trained, but I had no idea they were trained to provide such religious rights.

Someone did finally post an actual image of the grave site.

[Teatownclown]

[guido911]

I actually agree this was a gutsy move for someone who has always acted as an appeaser.  I think it showed real balls (and not just the white dimpled kind).  He took the actions of an American President for the first time since his election.

Now I also doubt he had much of a choice.  They had OBL, and knew it.  They had to act.  Killing was the only option.  Death from above would never render a positive ID, the body had to be brought back.  They couldn't take him prisoner, because where would they put him?  Can't take him to trial.  Can't use GITMO.  Can't interrogate without ACLU and over a thousand other international groups trying to get involved.  Hot lead was the only option and our president delivered!

I have given Obama credit on this matter. But when I hear people equate this decision, which any of our presidents would likely have made, to the soldiers actually on the ground and facing death is just moronic. Sheesh, those people must have a standing order for knee pads at their local sports store.

[we vs us]

The courage of the Prez vs the courage of navy seals are two different deals, really . . . and the existence of one doesn't diminish the existence of the other.  The seals obviously have to do amazing things under the threat of instant death.  I haven't heard anyone dispute what they do as the pinnacle of a certain sort of warriorship.  They're just badasses.  Duh. 

Obama essentially drove the ship of state straight into the jaws of another possible Carter-esque foreign policy failure.  If both of the copters had gone down and everything went south in the manner of Desert One, that would've been the end of his presidency, right then and there . . . and our self esteem, and esteem in the eyes of the world would've gone south, too.  He could've bombed the site from orbit, he could've sent in a pack of drones, he could've done a lot of things that weren't this straight up politically courageous.

He did a good job not only of taking out Bin Laden but then handling the aftermath (so far) in a way that keeps the Muslim world appeased while also making very public how decapitated Al Qaeda actually is now. 

[Gaspar]

The courage of the Prez vs the courage of navy seals are two different deals, really . . . and the existence of one doesn't diminish the existence of the other.  The seals obviously have to do amazing things under the threat of instant death.  I haven't heard anyone dispute what they do as the pinnacle of a certain sort of warriorship.  They're just badasses.  Duh. 

Obama essentially drove the ship of state straight into the jaws of another possible Carter-esque foreign policy failure.  If both of the copters had gone down and everything went south in the manner of Desert One, that would've been the end of his presidency, right then and there . . . and our self esteem, and esteem in the eyes of the world would've gone south, too.  He could've bombed the site from orbit, he could've sent in a pack of drones, he could've done a lot of things that weren't this straight up politically courageous.

He did a good job not only of taking out Bin Laden but then handling the aftermath (so far) in a way that keeps the Muslim world appeased while also making very public how decapitated Al Qaeda actually is now. 

+1
Just needs to get off the Carter economic path now.

[nathanm]

+1
Just needs to get off the Carter economic path now.

I'd love it if Obama were the second most job makingest President since WWII. (or was Carter first? I don't have the numbers handy.)

[guido911]

The courage of the Prez vs the courage of navy seals are two different deals, really . . . and the existence of one doesn't diminish the existence of the other.  The seals obviously have to do amazing things under the threat of instant death.  I haven't heard anyone dispute what they do as the pinnacle of a certain sort of warriorship.  They're just badasses.  Duh. 

Obama essentially drove the ship of state straight into the jaws of another possible Carter-esque foreign policy failure.  If both of the copters had gone down and everything went south in the manner of Desert One, that would've been the end of his presidency, right then and there . . . and our self esteem, and esteem in the eyes of the world would've gone south, too.  He could've bombed the site from orbit, he could've sent in a pack of drones, he could've done a lot of things that weren't this straight up politically courageous.

He did a good job not only of taking out Bin Laden but then handling the aftermath (so far) in a way that keeps the Muslim world appeased while also making very public how decapitated Al Qaeda actually is now. 

Did you read the quote that started this discussion: "But he [Obama] made that decision to go without telling Pakistan and that took some real courage, as much courage as our Navy SEALs did in pulling off a near flawless operation." Where's the distinction in the types of "courage" this idiot is talking about? Sounds to me that she is of the ilk that Obama personally took out Osama.

[Teatownclown]

The idiots speak.... retirees from Shrubs fiasco...why is that MSM gave these blunderers any time at all?

[Conan71]

The idiots speak.... retirees from Shrubs fiasco...why is that MSM gave these blunderers any time at all?

They already had their story straight.  The current admin will get their shot when they finally get their account down pat.