“I’d rather die in midtown than live in south Tulsa”

[Red Arrow]

Only if the mid-towners deaths turned them into zombies.  Otherwise, they'd just be dead.

If that is their choice, OK.


I actually live in north Bixby, not south Tulsa.  I think Guido lives across the line in Bixby too.

[patric]

I actually live in north Bixby, not south Tulsa.  I think Guido lives across the line in Bixby too.

Damn immigrants...

[Red Arrow]

Damn immigrants...

Hey, we're friendly down here.  We are glad to have you come spend your money.

[guido911]

If that is their choice, OK.


I actually live in north Bixby, not south Tulsa.  I think Guido lives across the line in Bixby too.

Yes.

[godboko71]

*Yawn*

[heironymouspasparagus]

Could always be worse, whichever area you are in...you could be stuck out there in Union district!

[Red Arrow]

Could always be worse, whichever area you are in...you could be stuck out there in Union district!

Oh no! Not the briar patch.

[Gaspar]

I've lived in both.  When I was young, single and early in my marriage I lived in midtown and loved it.  Wonderful place for young people to be close to everything, and feel like they are part of a light urban fabric.

Once we decided to have kids we moved to South Tulsa.
 
These were the reasons:
We wanted more property for us and the kids to play on and explore.
We liked the reputation, performance, and classroom assets of the Jenks school programs.
We wanted a neighborhood filled with kids where riding bikes and walking to each others homes was perceived as less dangerous.
We wanted less traffic.

What we got:
All of the above.
A modern home.
A greenbelt with tons of trees, a stream and wildlife behind the house.
Very quiet nights with no traffic noise.
Darker sky.
Neighbors who all have kids around the same age as ours that ride the bus together.
Plenty of parking.
Very aware neighborhood where everyone knows everyone and their kids.
. . .and it cost us about 75% of what we would have paid in midtown for comparable space.

What we miss:
The quality of people-watching.
Proximity to eclectic shops and eating, but this is getting better.

We weren't sure we were going to be happy in South Tulsa, so we held on to our midtown property and rented it out.  After about two years we liquidated the condo's with no regrets.

The quality of life we sought simply changed and South Tulsa offered what we needed.  If I was single again or married without children, I would probably move back to midtown or even some areas downtown. 

[Ronnie Lowe]

My family made the move to far south east Tulsa in the early 60s.  When we told our old neighbors in Tracy Park that we were moving to Lortondale you would have thought we had said we had won the lottery.  And I did love Lortondale and it came to form much of my world view but I also discovered empty lawns and no front porches, or if there was a front porch no one ever sat on it.  We saw our neighbors through car windows stopped at intersections.  We discovered that new construction and shiny clean surfaces do nothing to help the human dilemma.   Indeed, the shininess of all that new and improved stuff heightens the contrast between the promise and the reality of life.  It solves no problems but exacerbates them because you were promised that new home down south would save your soul.

[AquaMan]

You're David Bowie aren't you?

[Ronnie Lowe]

No, but we are both Capricorns.  So is Tulsa by the way.  Tulsa has a Capricorn Sun and a Cancer Moon.

[Red Arrow]

  Tulsa has a Capricorn Sun and a Cancer Moon.

Tulsa has cancer?

[Ronnie Lowe]

No, though I've heard of Cancer clusters near the refineries but haven't confirmed it.  Maybe that's a good reason to move to South Tulsa.

[Hoss]

No, though I've heard of Cancer clusters near the refineries but haven't confirmed it.  Maybe that's a good reason to move to South Tulsa.

Never found a reason good enough to do that...

[custosnox]

Never found a reason good enough to do that...

what about all of the recent shootings in midtown?