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Started by Townsend, May 23, 2011, 04:51:00 PM

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Townsend

Anyone have an idea how to research public school rankings without having to trudge through purchased Google lines?

I'm getting some strange word of mouth on Tulsa area public school districts and would love to see some decent data.

Thanks in advance.

Townsend


TeeDub


Townsend

http://apps.sde.state.ok.us/apireports/CountyMap.aspx?county=72

These are only the API scores.  More info is available on the link.

The scores are telling though.
I'm sure someone can comment that the scores are unfair or can be manipulated but people refer to these when deciding on a place to live. 
Another reason people are moving into the burbs and not Tulsa.

QuoteBERRYHILL PUBLIC SCHOOL has a
Total API of 1225

BIXBY PUBLIC SCHOOL has a Total
API of 1243

BROKEN ARROW PUBLIC SCHOOL
has a Total API of 1194

COLLINSVILLE PUBLIC SCHOOL
has a Total API of 1130

GLENPOOL PUBLIC SCHOOL has a
Total API of 1114

JENKS PUBLIC SCHOOL has a Total
API of 1298

KEYSTONE PUBLIC SCHOOL has a
Total API of 1062

LIBERTY PUBLIC SCHOOL has a
Total API of 996

OWASSO PUBLIC SCHOOL has a
Total API of 1257

SAND SPRINGS PUBLIC SCHOOL
has a Total API of 1141

SKIATOOK PUBLIC SCHOOL has a
Total API of 1077

SPERRY PUBLIC SCHOOL has a Total
API of 1034

TULSA PUBLIC SCHOOL has a Total
API of 920

UNION PUBLIC SCHOOL has a Total
API of 1166

SXSW

Quote from: Townsend on May 24, 2011, 07:56:50 AM
http://apps.sde.state.ok.us/apireports/CountyMap.aspx?county=72

These are only the API scores.  More info is available on the link.

The scores are telling though.
I'm sure someone can comment that the scores are unfair or can be manipulated but people refer to these when deciding on a place to live. 
Another reason people are moving into the burbs and not Tulsa.

TPS has lots of schools.  Some of them are the best in the metro area and some of them are the worst.  The TPS schools in midtown (as well as Carnegie and Grissom in south Tulsa) are as good as most suburban schools, and if your child can get into a magnet they will get a high quality education.  It is well-known that BTW is the best high school.  It is the schools on the west, north and east sides that are sub-par...obviously coinciding with income levels just like Union schools in the northern half of the district are much worse than ones in the south.
 

TheArtist

  I don't completely buy the "we are moving to the burbs for the better schools" thing.  I was looking at test scores for schools a few years ago and noticed that many of Tulsas schools were better than say Glenpools.  (will see if I can find the list)  But as Jenks was filling up and development started overflowing into the Glenpool area I guessed that the scores would go up as the demographics changed.  Sure enough, those "lousy" Glenpool schools have been moving up in the rankings as wealthier/upwardly mobile families move into the area.  

Conversely, some of the schools I went to in Tulsa when I was a kid were considered "the best" of their day, for in essence they were the suburbs of their day.  The neighborhoods around them were new, the families new and upwardly mobile, etc.  Then as the demographics changed, the first families moved up and out, the houses were older and not as nice and started selling to a different demographic, things started going down hill.  The schools didn't change, often the teachers were still the same teachers etc. it was the demographics that changed.  

Whats happeining is a couple of things, and its not "the schools" per say.  

 In general, new families like being around others like themselves and they like having the latest style of homes.   Where do you find concentrations of both?... in the new tracts of neighborhoods on the outer growth boundries, whether those be within the city or the next suburban ring out.  A lot of it is the "lemming" effect where people just do what everyone else is doing and fear to think outside the box.  At least in Tulsa if you choose to live somewhere in say a more urban setting its considered outside the box lol There is a lot of "peer pressure" to be the suburban, SUV driving, church going, soccer mom, etc. There is just the "norm/ideal" that families have now for a couple of generations expected they and their children to have. New stylish home, shiny new schools, shiny new shopping and dining centers, etc. My parents had it IN Tulsa, now our generation has moved to the next development ring out. Plus they think about their kids, "Who are the other kids in the neighborhood that my kids will be playing with?"  They SAY its the schools, but there is a lot more behind and right along with that that they are actually thinking about, one of those other things is indeed "demographics".  The combination of, wanting to be around others like yourself at the same stage of life and socio-economic grouping (and the peer pressure to do so "Honey, you should see the new house that my dear school friend Sally and her husband got in Wooded Valley!) They want us to come see it) and the reservations of being around those who are not like yourself (and the peer pressure to not do so "Honey, my mom said she saw a bunch of colored/immigrant kids down the street and worries about little Timmy).
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Townsend

Quote from: SXSW on May 24, 2011, 08:38:36 AM
TPS has lots of schools.  Some of them are the best in the metro area and some of them are the worst.  The TPS schools in midtown (as well as Carnegie and Grissom in south Tulsa) are as good as most suburban schools, and if your child can get into a magnet they will get a high quality education.  It is well-known that BTW is the best high school.  It is the schools on the west, north and east sides that are sub-par...obviously coinciding with income levels just like Union schools in the northern half of the district are much worse than ones in the south.

It wasn't long before I heard almost this exact thing from a friend with Tulsa school connections.

I'm getting a crash course.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on May 24, 2011, 09:03:04 AM
It wasn't long before I heard almost this exact thing from a friend with Tulsa school connections.

I'm getting a crash course.

Something going on with Mrs. T you haven't shared?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on May 24, 2011, 09:05:46 AM
Something going on with Mrs. T you haven't shared?

Not yet but she's got a hankerin'.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on May 24, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
Not yet but she's got a hankerin'.

You realize you DO live in the Undercroft Montessori (I highly recommend it), Holland Hall, Cascia, etc. school district now, right?  ;)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

carltonplace

Quote from: Townsend on May 24, 2011, 07:56:50 AM
http://apps.sde.state.ok.us/apireports/CountyMap.aspx?county=72

These are only the API scores.  More info is available on the link.

The scores are telling though.
I'm sure someone can comment that the scores are unfair or can be manipulated but people refer to these when deciding on a place to live. 
Another reason people are moving into the burbs and not Tulsa.



I don't think this is a fair representation of Tulsa Public Schools. It compares the entire district of many schools with many different types of students with varying backgounds against much smaller school districts with very similar types of students.