No Wit and the seven dummies

[Townsend]

Let the bat-smile crazy express begin!

Chugga chugga chugga chugga...Wooo woooooooooo

[we vs us]

The problem with this year's GOP field is the same as it's been since 2010: no matter how personally moderate any of these folks are, they still have to pander to their base, which is batshit crazy and demands things -- like not raising the debt ceiling -- which will actively destroy our economy. 

After that, the GOPers will have to somehow pivot and become palatable to the moderate middle.

The problem is, the GOP base now has no overlap whatsoever with the moderate middle. Building a coalition of those two things is still going to be nearly impossible.  Relying on mass dissatisfaction with Obama isn't going to be enough (check O's personal approval ratings; they have consistently defied the right-track wrong track numbers, the economy numbers, etc.  People may not like the job O's done, but they might very well be willing to give him another 4 years to see his projects through).

[Conan71]

The problem with this year's GOP field is the same as it's been since 2010: no matter how personally moderate any of these folks are, they still have to pander to their base, which is batshit crazy and demands things -- like not raising the debt ceiling -- which will actively destroy our economy. 

After that, the GOPers will have to somehow pivot and become palatable to the moderate middle.

The problem is, the GOP base now has no overlap whatsoever with the moderate middle. Building a coalition of those two things is still going to be nearly impossible.  Relying on mass dissatisfaction with Obama isn't going to be enough (check O's personal approval ratings; they have consistently defied the right-track wrong track numbers, the economy numbers, etc.  People may not like the job O's done, but they might very well be willing to give him another 4 years to see his projects through).

Still not sure what you are trying to say with your second paragraph.  Your English degree is getting in the way of my comprehension. 

Continuing to borrow will actively destroy our economy just as adeptly as saying: "No more".

[Cats Cats Cats]

Still not sure what you are trying to say with your second paragraph.  Your English degree is getting in the way of my comprehension. 

Continuing to borrow will actively destroy our economy just as adeptly as saying: "No more".

C'mon Conan.. You know what he was saying.  Basically they have to pander to the fringe even if they are moderate (Romney)

[Townsend]

C'mon Conan.. You know what he was saying.  Basically they have to pander to the fringe even if they are moderate (Romney)

Good hair that Romney fellow.  He'll go far this go-round.  (unless they pull out the closet skeletons early)

Bachmann will destroy any sense in the early parts of the run.  The 700 Club will love love love her though.

[RecycleMichael]

When Michelle Bachman's comments get scrutiny, she is through. Her lies on talk shows will come back to haunt her.

And she doesn't believe in evolution. That should play well with independents.

[we vs us]

C'mon Conan.. You know what he was saying.  Basically they have to pander to the fringe even if they are moderate (Romney)

Yup.  That's the crux.  And it will hurt them in the general election.

My second point is that many GOPers think that, because the economy is in the crapper, Obama will lose a second term.  That's always possible, but unlike other past presidents, he gets high personal marks even when people think the country is on the wrong track ("wrong-track, right-track" is a typical poll question that gets a lot of credence: "is the country on the right track or the wrong track?"). IMO that means people will still re-elect him, if only because they believe his work isn't finished.  

This isn't a foregone conclusion, obviously, but I currently don't see the trend of the last year or so reversing yet.

[Conan71]

Yup.  That's the crux.  And it will hurt them in the general election.

My second point is that many GOPers think that, because the economy is in the crapper, Obama will lose a second term.  That's always possible, but unlike other past presidents, he gets high personal marks even when people think the country is on the wrong track ("wrong-track, right-track" is a typical poll question that gets a lot of credence: "is the country on the right track or the wrong track?"). IMO that means people will still re-elect him, if only because they believe his work isn't finished.  

This isn't a foregone conclusion, obviously, but I currently don't see the trend of the last year or so reversing yet.

People holding unemployment checks who are tired of $4.00 gas will decide the next election

[we vs us]

People holding unemployment checks who are tired of $4.00 gas will decide the next election

You're right, but it's not clear at all whether that will help the GOP.

[Conan71]

You're right, but it's not clear at all whether that will help the GOP.

Depends on how good a job the Obama campaign can do in bulshitting convincing those people it's still Bush's Republican's peak oil's sun spot's global warming's er Bush's fault after all these years.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Gaspar,
Haven't heard enough about Cain.  I don't hold out much hope for him or the other side, though.  The guy I still like has an Mc in front of it (McCain), in spite of his failure choosing Palin.  But he will never get another shot.  I like Joe Lieberman, too.  And I like Fred Thompson.  And Dan Boren.  

An hoping Brad Carson runs for district 2 again to replace Boren.  He was a good guy before and still is.  Sad that he didn't win against Inhofe, but I guess the institutional ignorance in this state is still too deeply entrenched to solve that particular problem.

Used to like Coburn, but he and his buddy Ensign have put me off somewhat.  (In general, if Weiner has done something worthy of resignation due to indignation, then Ensign and Coburn have raised the bar to criminal activity.  That is what I am having trouble with regarding Tom now.)

These 7 are the dummies put up as targets to expend "ammunition" against before the true annointed ones are selected and debuted.  It will happen with the Dummycrats as well as the Republicontins.

[Townsend]

Depends on how good a job the Obama campaign can do in bulshitting convincing those people it's still Bush's Republican's peak oil's sun spot's global warming's er Bush's fault after all these years.

The other side of the aisle isn't exactly running towards the tape with their arms lifted in victory either.

It's all a commercial for fast food.  

First person; "who are you voting for?"
Second person; "It depends on who can sell me their burger."

Fast food politics.  Feel free to use that.

[Gaspar]

These are not the perfect candidates.  Each has various flaws and blunders.  None of these people may actually be THE candidate.

. . .But all of these people would be vastly better than President Obama!

They come to the table with ideas focused on the economy and private sector growth, not a social agenda at the expense of the economy.

I was critical of the "Anyone but Bush" campaign, because it produced president Obama.  I am now convinced that almost anyone willing to work with the private sector and reduce the size of government is a necessary choice for president.

[we vs us]

These are not the perfect candidates.  Each has various flaws and blunders.  None of these people may actually be THE candidate.

. . .But all of these people would be vastly better than President Obama!

They come to the table with ideas focused on the economy and private sector growth, not a social agenda at the expense of the economy.

I was critical of the "Anyone but Bush" campaign, because it produced president Obama.  I am now convinced that almost anyone willing to work with the private sector and reduce the size of government is a necessary choice for president.

Cool.  So it's President Bachmann, then?

PS.  I think Huntsman is going to be a stronger contender than anyone expects at this point.

[Townsend]

Cool.  So it's President Bachmann, then?

Man, libs people with at least average intellect and understanding would react worse than all the birthers/racists/social conservatives/religious nuts combined on that one.


Had to include everyone, not just the libs on that one.