Debt Debate in Congress

[Townsend]

Hey, I'm good with that too!  We had the opportunity to turn things around with Erskine Bowles' and the president's super committee recommendations.  In fact, President Obama hand picked the members of the Super Committee and demanded that they provide a solution.  He gave them a solid deadline and recognized and pontificated that the recommendations of the Committee might be "painful" but necessary in stabilizing our economy, reducing debt, and creating jobs.

We still never got a reason from the president as to why he ignored the committee's "Moment of Truth" report.  Not a word was said, it was just quietly slid to the side of the Resolute Desk, where i'm sure it still sits today over a year later.  We had an opportunity to choose the blue line, but we went with the green line.  No explanations.   No reasons.  Just a quiet decision to slouch forward blindly.

http://momentoftruthproject.org/sites/default/files/TheMomentofTruth12_1_2010.pdf

Congratulations.  You're the most full of crap member of the forum now.  How do you expect anyone to trust your posts?


http://news.yahoo.com/time-ran-super-committee-watched-football-hung-around-150322495.html

[Gaspar]

Congratulations.  You're the most full of crap member of the forum now.  How do you expect anyone to trust your posts?


http://news.yahoo.com/time-ran-super-committee-watched-football-hung-around-150322495.html

So you are saying that the report delivered by the super committee in 2010 is somehow related to this?

Once they realized they were going to be played as scapegoats, and none of their original recommendations considered, they should have just joined the president on the course.

Looks like a growing number in Congress wants the president to re-consider the original Simpson Bowels recommendations: http://momentoftruthproject.org/node/306

[Gaspar]

Congratulations.  You're the most full of crap member of the forum now.  How do you expect anyone to trust your posts?


http://news.yahoo.com/time-ran-super-committee-watched-football-hung-around-150322495.html

I think you rely on the Google a little too much now.  You do understand that the Super Committee delivered their original report over a year ago to the total disregard of the president?

[Townsend]

So you are saying that the report delivered by the super committee in 2010 is somehow related to this?

Once they realized they were going to be played as scapegoats, and none of their original recommendations considered, they should have just joined the president on the course.

Looks like a growing number in Congress wants the president to re-consider the original Simpson Bowels recommendations: http://momentoftruthproject.org/node/306

Where'd you get "handpicked by the president"?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-names-her-picks-to-supercommittee-completing-12-member-debt-panel/2011/08/11/gIQALKDu8I_story.html

On Wednesday, following the lead of Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) announced their picks for the new panel.

[Townsend]

I think you rely on the Google a little too much now.  You do understand that the Super Committee delivered their original report over a year ago to the total disregard of the president?

You mean the follow up story?

[Hoss]

Congratulations.  You're the most full of crap member of the forum now.  How do you expect anyone to trust your posts?


http://news.yahoo.com/time-ran-super-committee-watched-football-hung-around-150322495.html

Scott, please don't ever run for public office.

Or do.  You exhibit the laziness and lack of research skills that are currently tantamount in our elected officials today.  At least we'll know what we're getting.

[Gaspar]

Scott, please don't ever run for public office.

Or do.  You exhibit the laziness and lack of research skills that are currently tantamount in our elected officials today.  At least we'll know what we're getting.

Please explain.  Did you do the same thing and just ignore the Simpson Bowels recommendations from 2010?

[Gaspar]

Where'd you get "handpicked by the president"?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-names-her-picks-to-supercommittee-completing-12-member-debt-panel/2011/08/11/gIQALKDu8I_story.html

You are correct.  He only got to pick 6 members and the two co-chairs.  Pelosi got to pick 3, Reid got to pick 3, and the Republicans got 6.
Executive Order 13531

The Commission shall be composed of 18 members who shall be selected as follows:
(a)    six members appointed by the President, not more than four of whom shall be from the same political party;
(b)    three members selected by the Majority Leader of the Senate, all of whom shall be current Members of the Senate;
(c)    three members selected by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, all of whom shall be current Members of the House of Representatives;
(d)    three members selected by the Minority Leader of the Senate, all of whom shall be current Members of the Senate; and
(e)    three members selected by the Minority Leader of the House of Representatives, all of whom shall be current Members of the House of Representatives.


So, because he did not get to pick them all, their research and opinions do not count?

[Gaspar]

You mean the follow up story?

That was not a follow up.  That was related to the 2011 recommendations.

After returning the recommendations in 2010 and being ignored, a delay tactic was approved in congress on debt reduction, and a set of automatic triggers agreed too.  This was a clear signal that the Super Committee was "designed to fail" and serve as a scapegoat.  After all, they couldn't simply re-deliver the recommendations they provided in 2010, and the president made it clear that he was only willing to accept tax increases on the wealthy as the primary option.  They were patsies, and they knew it.  

[Townsend]

So, because he did not get to pick them all, their research and opinions do not count?

I was commenting on the posts you make up.  It's why I ask you to cite your posts.

[Townsend]

 They were patsies, and they knew it.  

Probably should've turned down their appointments if they knew they were patsies huh?

[Gaspar]

I was commenting on the posts you make up.  It's why I ask you to cite your posts.

Sorry, I am unaware of those.

[Townsend]

Sorry, I am unaware of those.

Well sure.

[Townsend]

 In fact, President Obama hand picked the members of the Super Committee 

then me:

Where'd you get "handpicked by the president"?

Then you:

You are correct.

You do that often.  It swiss cheeses your reliability.

[Gaspar]

then me:

Then you:


You do that often.  It swiss cheeses your reliability.

My dearest apologies. There were 6 of the 18 picked by those outside of his party. 

I must be affected by too much right-wing propaganda.  Please don't hesitate to set me straight.