The Real Americans, The Real Patriots

[Teatownclown]

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/29/6977742-rewriting-concept-of-real-america

[Teatownclown]

"Real patriots pay their fair share of taxes. They don't run out on the bill."

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/column/article_1776299a-32ea-5f93-a110-eaf156730376.html

[Conan71]

Without a doubt the tax code needs a serious overhaul.  Any suggestions?

[Teatownclown]

Step 1) Immediately roll back to tax  code under Clinton

[Teatownclown]

step 2) increase the corporate tax

Profits Thrive in Weak Recovery

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304760604576426153929429820.html

"While the U.S. economy staggers through one of its slowest recoveries since the Great Depression, American companies are poised to report strong earnings for the second quarter—exposing a dichotomy between corporate performance and the overall health of the economy."

[Gaspar]

Without a doubt the tax code needs a serious overhaul.  Any suggestions?

Everyone pays 15%.  No deductions, no loopholes, no additions, no transaction taxes.

or

No income tax, just tax transactions.  The fed/state gets a cut anytime there is commerce.

or

6 tax brackets, with thousands of write-offs, credits, loopholes, and 6,578 pages of tax code requiring a multi-billion dollar industry with millions of employees to process, understand, and manipulate.  We could make it so complex that the amount a person has to pay is limited by the amount they can afford to spend on tax attorneys.  We could even make the tax forms so incomprehensible that everyone from the average poor citizen to the Treasury Secretary himself can't understand them enough to file a correct return.

Oh. . .wait, we already tried that one.

[Conan71]

Step 1) Immediately roll back to tax  code under Clinton

step 2) increase the corporate tax

Profits Thrive in Weak Recovery

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304760604576426153929429820.html

"While the U.S. economy staggers through one of its slowest recoveries since the Great Depression, American companies are poised to report strong earnings for the second quarter—exposing a dichotomy between corporate performance and the overall health of the economy."

Both plausible ideas.  But what would get companies hiring again?  They've learned to do more with less help, it would appear.  Maybe it's time for some sort of emerging technology to take off.  The late Clinton years might have looked a lot different if not for the expansion of telecom, the internet boom, and bio-engineering.

You mentioned once that the old tax codes of 70 to 90% for top earners contained all sorts of loopholes which worked as encouragement for companies to continually re-invest.  Isn't that sort of what's being exploited now only corporations are playing off-shore shell games instead of reinvesting in the states.

[Teatownclown]

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-enterprise-man-hunted-osama-bin-laden-040627805.html

another example

[Teatownclown]

Both plausible ideas.  But what would get companies hiring again?  They've learned to do more with less help, it would appear.  Maybe it's time for some sort of emerging technology to take off.  The late Clinton years might have looked a lot different if not for the expansion of telecom, the internet boom, and bio-engineering.

You mentioned once that the old tax codes of 70 to 90% for top earners contained all sorts of loopholes which worked as encouragement for companies to continually re-invest.  Isn't that sort of what's being exploited now only corporations are playing off-shore shell games instead of reinvesting in the states.

Yes. The offshore taxes should be due but I am willing to forgive some of the liability if there is a direct application by corporations in the form of a credit for hiring US workers.