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Started by swake, July 30, 2011, 09:03:34 AM

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Townsend

I started to post this in the S&J thread but it seems to be more about Sager's building.

So next summer this time.

Iconic restaurant reopens in downtown Tulsa's Blue Dome District

QuoteTULSA - The downtown Tulsa building that will house the First Street Lofts has a new tenant.
S&J Oyster Bar opened its doors near 1st and Elgin this week.

The opening comes as construction moves along for the rest of the building in the Blue Dome District.

The restaurant was an institution in Brookside for more than 20 years before the owner decided to retire several years ago.

The bar area is almost a replica of the original bar when S&J was located in the current Leon's location in Brookside.   

The new owners told 2NEWS they chose the Blue Dome District because it's an up and coming area with potential to grow.

Michael Sager is the owner of the building and hopes the restaurant's notoriety will help sell the building.

The lofts have been in the works for years and tax dollars have been used to help with construction.

Sager says the economy slowed the progress, but he expects the building will be ready for residential tenants by the summer of 2013.

"It's going to to be $5.5 million by the time we are done," said Sager.  "It grew from a small number of residential units to 23 residential units and it grew from one retail user to three retail users. Every time you touch it keeps moving on up."

The restaurant has hired about 40 people, six of whom worked at the original location.


Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/iconic-restaurant-reopens-in-blue-dome-district#ixzz29ZxZ2ThH

carltonplace

Quote from: Townsend on October 17, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
I started to post this in the S&J thread but it seems to be more about Sager's building.

So next summer this time.

Iconic restaurant reopens in downtown Tulsa's Blue Dome District


Summer of 2013! Wow! I'm so excited and I really believe him this time! Twelve times is the charm! Exclamation Points for Sale! [/snark]

Townsend

Here you go...



Q & A: Michael Sager a driving force in downtown resurgence

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/q-a-michael-sager-a-driving-force-in-downtown-resurgence/article_04160ce8-2453-5777-b5e9-4fe2a1b172a1.html

QuoteAt the back of a small parking lot across the alley from the long-gone Jacobs Hotel on First Street, I could make out a patio with a barbecue grill, a 1918 headstone from the old hotel and mannequins with differing numbers of arms and legs lounging on the outdoor furniture.
I made my way through a side door into an office area filled with a lot of this and that — sofa, easy chairs, antique stove, barber chair, neon signs, bigger-than-life mannequins, fireplace, bar, books, maps, photos. It was the kind of office one suspects belongs to a free-wheeling personality. It does.
"This is where we do business," said Michael Sager, in dark-rimmed glasses and wearing an orange dress shirt and jeans.
For more than three decades Sager has been one of the driving forces behind the resurgence of downtown, especially in the Blue Dome District. That resurgence did not come quickly or easily.
Sager said that after graduating from Cascia Hall in 1964, he lived all over the country and traveled the world after founding an international shipping company in California.
"I've had family living in Tulsa since 1918, and on a trip home I came across a development opportunity, a 1,000-acre rural subdivision near Bixby," Sager said. "I sold the shipping business and my house on Manhattan Beach and moved home."
He said he and two partners purchased the Jacobs Hotel building in 1979. Today it houses S&J Oyster Bar & Seafood Cafe and Whiskey Business liquor store, and eventually will hold the Sager-developed First Street Lofts and another retail space.
"For years we wondered why we ever bought that building," Sager said. "It was like the Wild West down here."
The first breakthrough came when his group bought the Patrick Building on Third Street between Detroit and Elgin avenues and founded Carmichael's restaurant.
"That got some people looking our way, and it was a very good restaurant," Sager said. "It wasn't about me; it was the talent. We had people like Kim Michie (Wild Fork), Tom Farrell (Farrell Family Bread), Lola Palazzo (Lola's Caravan) and Joe Tierney (Progressive Produce and Farm).
"After that, in 1989, I decided to get out of housing real estate and buy all of downtown I could. A partner, Stanley Synar, and I bought the Blue Dome Building, and one thing led to another.
"I felt there was significant building inventory that was abandoned and derelict. I thought I could make it work.
"There were other people, like David Sharp and Glenn Strobel, who had visions for downtown, too, and they're still actively trying to make a difference. It takes landlords willing to take a risk. It's expensive to take on an old building that functionally is obsolete."
He recalls that his first tenant was the "Barnes family from north Tulsa" who opened Good Fellas nightclub at Second Street and Detroit Avenue.
"Every time one person has a tiny bit of success, it opens opportunities for other people," Sager said. "It's always a stair-step process. There's no magic potion, but I've always believed entertainment, arts and food are the initial attractions to a new district. Then other things will follow."
His mother, Patricia, has joined the business after living for 30 years in California. An earthquake wiped out her beach home.
"She said if I found her a home overlooking the river here she would move back," Sager said.
They both have desks surrounded with books, maps, aerial photos and architect drawings near the front door.
Sager has sold the Blue Dome Building and said he is concentrating his efforts on the First Street Lofts.
"We'll have 23 lofts for lease, from 780 to 2,000 square feet," he said. "I wanted all different sizes because I want this to be a neighborhood, and downtown is the core of the city."
We also asked Sager his thoughts on some more personal matters.
What are you?

... reading, watching or listening to recently?
Reading "Chapman Piloting & Seamanship" as late this summer I shall pilot a trawler named Inspiration from Seattle to Los Angeles. I'm watching Science Channel's "Strip This City." Its subject is deconstructing major cities and seeing "what's under the obvious."
And, of course, "Chicago Fire."
... seeing in restaurant development in downtown Tulsa?
Restaurants are the new area generators, not big-box retail stores in a sea of parking. In the downtown area, the equation of diversity of cuisine plus decor equal success. We all eat daily, so all price points and types of food can flourish.
... like to see happen in future general development of downtown?
Recognition that downtown is the cultural hub of Tulsa, which includes new hotels, PAC, BOK Center, ONEOK Field, Folks Urban Market, churches, restaurants and retail stores. Infilling with other local retail stores, plus the residential explosion, all supplement the office environment in making downtown a 24/7 area.
... most likely to choose for your next special-occasion dinner?
Tallgrass Prairie Table at 313 E. Second St.
... loving about living in Tulsa?
The ease of accessing activities of interest, whether Grand Lake, downtown or shopping areas.
... likely to prepare for your favorite meal at home?
Barbecue of some form, brisket or pork shoulder.
... thinking is a perfect night out in Tulsa?
A perfect evening will be the Tulsa Tough races under the lights in the Blue Dome District on June 6, or gather at my "Batcave" on First Street, go for cocktails at Hodges Bend or something like a Bruce Springsteen concert at BOK.

swake

You want to know how I know the Tulsa World is a terrible newspaper?

This sh!t.


Conan71

Quote from: swake on May 22, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
You want to know how I know the Tulsa World is a terrible newspaper?

This sh!t.



That and glamor pieces on Beautiful Brands and David Rutskauskis (sp?)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: swake on May 22, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
You want to know how I know the Tulsa World is a terrible newspaper?

This sh!t.



Bought and paid for!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

swake

I wonder if the World provides a Happy Ending with this rubdown?

Cats Cats Cats

#67
Say what you will about Sager but he is willing to work with businesses on his properties.  He actually sells his buildings for actual retail.  The reason why these places aren't being used downtown is that they won't let you in if you aren't going to spend $1 million in improvements on their $300,000 building.  Or they are trying to charge 2x for rent what it would cost if I bought the building and got it 100% financed.  Half of blue dome would be dead if somebody else owned those buildings.

sgrizzle

Quote from: CharlieSheen on May 22, 2014, 02:21:30 PM
Say what you will about Sager but he is willing to work with businesses on his properties.  He actually sells his buildings for actual retail.  The reason why these places aren't being used downtown is that they won't let you in if you aren't going to spend $1 million in improvements on their $300,000 building.  Or they are trying to charge 2x for rent what it would cost if I bought the building and got it 100% financed.  Half of blue dome would be dead if somebody else owned those buildings.

Didn't he kick out a certain popular diner restaurant because they refused to make hundreds of thousands in improvements?

Gaspar

Quote from: sgrizzle on May 22, 2014, 04:02:37 PM
Didn't he kick out a certain popular diner restaurant because they refused to make hundreds of thousands in improvements?

I thought it was because they weren't using half the building (in the back) and if he could get a bar in there he could make a lot more rent on the space?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: sgrizzle on May 22, 2014, 04:02:37 PM
Didn't he kick out a certain popular diner restaurant because they refused to make hundreds of thousands in improvements?

Well, that and a refusal to pay their rent apparently.  That's at least what Sager's broker told me.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

DTowner

Quote from: CharlieSheen on May 22, 2014, 02:21:30 PM
Say what you will about Sager but he is willing to work with businesses on his properties.  He actually sells his buildings for actual retail.  The reason why these places aren't being used downtown is that they won't let you in if you aren't going to spend $1 million in improvements on their $300,000 building.  Or they are trying to charge 2x for rent what it would cost if I bought the building and got it 100% financed.  Half of blue dome would be dead if somebody else owned those buildings.

Sager probably makes a better landlord than a residential developer.  The elephant in the room in this article, however, is its failure to even mention that Sager was loaned millions by Tulsans to turn this building into loft apartments and nearly a decade later he still hasn't fulfilled his end of the bargain.  The periodic stories in which he says completion is just around the corner have gone from farce to outright insult.  At least the recent Channel 2 story mentioned the loan and his failure to complete this project.  The World's failure to even mention the obvious makes this article nothing more than a PR puff-piece that is beneath a serious newspaper.

sgrizzle

Quote from: Gaspar on May 22, 2014, 04:07:56 PM
I thought it was because they weren't using half the building (in the back) and if he could get a bar in there he could make a lot more rent on the space?


Tallgrass isn't using the whole space either.

Gaspar

Quote from: sgrizzle on May 22, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Tallgrass isn't using the whole space either.

Yes, but they are being charged rent for it.  I don't think the diner was.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Still, he is a dick. And reinforcing the folklore that he is the face of downtown development when so many are aware of his dickiness is so Tulsa.
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