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Started by DolfanBob, August 12, 2011, 11:18:26 AM

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DolfanBob

Tulsa's very own version of the Marvel Comic Superhero "Spiderman" has climbed a East Tulsa Radio tower and has remained there for for almost 24 hours.

The new black version of the Superhero can be seen streaming live on several local T.V. stations web sites.

It is unclear why this Spiderman named only as William has chose this Radio Tower to reveal himself in such a way and for this length of time.

Multiple Police, Fire and Rescue teams have been at the site trying to convince the tower climber to come down, and even tried to as they say encourage him by shooting pepper balls and rubber bullets. But his Super human strength was to much for them and he remains on the tower.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

patric

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Quote from: DolfanBob on August 12, 2011, 11:18:26 AM
Multiple Police, Fire and Rescue teams have been at the site trying to convince the tower climber to come down, and even tried to as they say encourage him by shooting pepper balls and rubber bullets. But his Super human strength was to much for them and he remains on the tower.

The live streaming isnt very smart, neither is shooting pepper balls.
We seem woefully unprepared in dealing with the mentally ill.

Wonder if this is all overtime, or if this is taking manpower away from the rest of the city?

EDIT:  Sounds like weapons fire at the beginning of this video:
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Man-still-on-station-tower/5rgba1kfckSTt_N2MJ6Peg.cspx
They report the siege has been reduced to around 25 officers from yesterday.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Salukipoke

Surely he's had to go to the bathroom... don't you think???  Dude definitely has stamina.

Hoss

Quote from: Salukipoke on August 12, 2011, 01:06:50 PM
Surely he's had to go to the bathroom... don't you think???  Dude definitely has stamina.

I believe they gave him a bag with a cell phone and water in it yesterday.  Deduce what you will from that.

BKDotCom

I never understand these standoff situations.
He's not coming down because
a)  he's now in a confrontation... and not going to back down
b)  he likes attention

Remove the spectacle and the problem solves itself... he'll get bored / need to use the bathroom / eat / etc.   Right now he's ordering bags, cellphones, pizzas, room service, etc... I'd stay up there too.
Station a cop out of the view of the guy to arrest him or whatever when he comes down.

patric

Quote from: BKDotCom on August 13, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
I never understand these standoff situations.
He's not coming down because
a)  he's now in a confrontation... and not going to back down
b)  he likes attention

Remove the spectacle and the problem solves itself... he'll get bored / need to use the bathroom / eat / etc.   Right now he's ordering bags, cellphones, pizzas, room service, etc... I'd stay up there too.
Station a cop out of the view of the guy to arrest him or whatever when he comes down.

He's been given a bottle of water, and a gatorade a couple of days ago, and the cell phone he was sent only had a couple hours of battery (which died two days ago).  Sorry, no pizza.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

ZYX

Quote from: BKDotCom on August 13, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
I never understand these standoff situations.
He's not coming down because
a)  he's now in a confrontation... and not going to back down
b)  he likes attention

Remove the spectacle and the problem solves itself... he'll get bored / need to use the bathroom / eat / etc.   Right now he's ordering bags, cellphones, pizzas, room service, etc... I'd stay up there too.
Station a cop out of the view of the guy to arrest him or whatever when he comes down.


If he's truly mentally ill, then I don't think he should be arrested.

Hoss

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Quote from: ZYX on August 14, 2011, 01:45:15 PM
If he's truly mentally ill, then I don't think he should be arrested.

Cracks me up.  People who seem to think they know about mentally ill people don't.  My dad currently is in that realm.  He's a handful, and I'm not the primary care-giver for him, my brother is.  It physically exhausts him to have to interact with my dad.

It's too bad many of these people saying 'let him fall' and what-knot probably don't have any relatives or friends on the same level of sick-mentally as this guy likely is.  Word is he walked..from Dallas to Tulsa.  While that doesn't necessarily speak to his mental capacity, it does speak to his endurance.

I look at my dad and it makes me wonder if that's me when I'm 65 years old...  >:(

Come on people, I'm not saying we should all sing 'cry me a river', but show a little compassion.  If he indeed is mentally ill, then he'll need help.  It pains me to think of the family reading such asinine comments (and I'm not speaking specifically to this forum, but other comments sections in the local media have these kinds of comments).

BKDotCom

My question is "how is the throng of first responders at the base providing any help?"
As long as they're down there it's a "standoff"
He's not afraid of heights, he's afraid of everyone at the base of the tower.

patric

Quote from: BKDotCom on August 14, 2011, 08:11:42 PM
My question is "how is the throng of first responders at the base providing any help?"
As long as they're down there it's a "standoff"
He's not afraid of heights, he's afraid of everyone at the base of the tower.

It's become a battle of egoes at this point.
Neither side want to let the other "win". 
Force didnt work, nor did negotiating with policemen dressed as firemen, and now TPD has said they will arrest anyone who tries to talk to him.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

sgrizzle


Townsend


sgrizzle

I should make a posting offering the other shoe for $250k

Townsend

Quote from: sgrizzle on August 15, 2011, 11:07:51 AM
I should make a posting offering the other shoe for $250k


You might wait until the other shoe drops.

BKDotCom

Quote from: patric on August 15, 2011, 10:20:36 AM
It's become a battle of egoes at this point.
Neither side want to let the other "win". 
Force didnt work, nor did negotiating with policemen dressed as firemen, and now TPD has said they will arrest anyone who tries to talk to him.

And that's the issue I have with these types of standoffs.
If the police, fire, etc would just leave, it would no longer be a standoff and the guy would just come down (leave the house, whatever the situation is) on his own.
Leave one out of sight police officer down there to nab ("help") the dude when he comes down.
Win/Win for everyone