Another stab at liquor law reform

[DolfanBob]

This is starting to look promising. Finally the people are being heard about the 50 year old backward Liquor Laws in this State.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/newshomepage2/modernizing-oklahoma-s-liquor-laws-likely-won-t-happen-this/article_4a8d5893-f63d-5b8b-82cf-2992a2c5d9e3.html

[Hoss]

This is starting to look promising. Finally the people are being heard about the 50 year old backward Liquor Laws in this State.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/newshomepage2/modernizing-oklahoma-s-liquor-laws-likely-won-t-happen-this/article_4a8d5893-f63d-5b8b-82cf-2992a2c5d9e3.html

They just keep kicking the can down the road though...they'll use the same excuse in 2016 unless voices are heard now.

[DTowner]

This is starting to look promising. Finally the people are being heard about the 50 year old backward Liquor Laws in this State.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/newshomepage2/modernizing-oklahoma-s-liquor-laws-likely-won-t-happen-this/article_4a8d5893-f63d-5b8b-82cf-2992a2c5d9e3.html

This is the key quote and issue:

"Although the measure passed and the cold, strong beer provision remained in the bill, Bice said any changes likely won't be made until after all parties, such as wholesalers, retailers and others, come to the table for a discussion."

The game in Oklahoma is rigged with every interested player (except the consumer) getting a carve out.  Changing only one aspect (such as allowing sales of cold high point beer in liquor stores) upsets the carefully crafted balance.  By and large the liquor stores, distributors and convenience/grocery stores are all comfortable and satisfied with the current system, as they each have their protected niche. They see the status quo is starting to be threatened by the building demand for modernization.  The optimist view is that the interested parties realize change is going to happen and they need to get on board to make sure they are protected.  The pessimist view is that they realize the best way to kill any change is to make it too big for the Oklahoma voters to swallow all at once.

[patric]

This is the key quote and issue:

"Although the measure passed and the cold, strong beer provision remained in the bill, Bice said any changes likely won't be made until after all parties, such as wholesalers, retailers and others, come to the table for a discussion."

You can put that quote on the tombstone of every effort to date.  It always ends with  "Oh, we should see what the mom-and-pop package lobby store has to say, let's set up some meetings."  and it never happens.

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=15022.msg186883#msg186883

[carltonplace]

Baby step: This was voted into law:


http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/ice-cold-beer-high-point-kind

"Ice Cold Beer"... The High Point Kind


By Associated Press

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Legislation that would authorize liquor stores to sell refrigerated, high-point beer has been approved by the Oklahoma House.

House members on Wednesday voted 68-21 for the Senate-passed measure. Its author, Republican Rep. Glen Mulready of Tulsa, says the bill will now go to a joint House-Senate conference committee where it may undergo changes before lawmakers seek final passage.

High-point beer currently can only be sold in liquor stores and at room temperature. Under the measure, consumers would still have to purchase high-point beer at liquor stores, but it could be refrigerated before being sold.

Mulready says Oklahoma is one of only five states that offer only low-point beer under refrigeration. Opponents say the measure could increase youth access to alcohol.

[DolfanBob]

This Tulsa World article mentions sales of high point beer at Liquor, Grocery and Convenient stores.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage2/what-the-ale-oklahoma-is-progressing-in-its-beer-laws/article_dff515a9-8218-5633-9f1f-9bddf722bb0a.html

We would finally come out of the drinking dark ages.

[rdj]

That is assuming it gets out of committee.  Cross our fingers it does.

[Conan71]

Opponents say the measure could increase youth access to alcohol.

Who are these mouth-breathing knuckle draggers?  OMFG!

[Hoss]

Who are these mouth-breathing knuckle draggers?  OMFG!

Oklahoma lawmakers!  Duh!   

[patric]

Opponents say the measure could increase youth access to alcohol.

Those "youth" would still have to take it up to the register in the liquor store, which is the liquor store lobby implying they do a poor job with the existing law...

[Hoss]

I saw someone make a hilarious comment in the Oklahoman story on this online today:

"Im just surprised (AG) Pruitt (sic) hasnt decided to sue Kansas and Texas for legally carrying higher point beers in gas stations, grocery stores, etc."

LOL.

[patric]

I saw someone make a hilarious comment in the Oklahoman story on this online today:

"Im just surprised (AG) Pruitt (sic) hasnt decided to sue Kansas and Texas for legally carrying higher point beers in gas stations, grocery stores, etc."

He's too busy trying to force bibles into public schools.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/oklahoma-ags-bible-defense-may-have-opened-elementary-schools-to-satanist-literature/

[Vashta Nerada]

Who are these mouth-breathing knuckle draggers?  OMFG!

When you buy a keg of beer in Oklahoma, your drivers license is scanned and entered into a DPS database, with the information not only going to ABLE but to the highway patrol.  OHP puts a watch on the address, and if they find a party, cops are positioned just out of sight in order to stop guests as they leave. 

Tip:  Have someone else pick up your keg.

[swake]

When you buy a keg of beer in Oklahoma, your drivers license is scanned and entered into a DPS database, with the information not only going to ABLE but to the highway patrol.  OHP puts a watch on the address, and if they find a party, cops are positioned just out of sight in order to stop guests as they leave. 

Tip:  Have someone else pick up your keg

Is this real?

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Is this real?

Probably as real as Robert Bates training records.