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Making the Case for Medical Marijuana

Started by patric, August 26, 2011, 11:48:42 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: DTowner on August 07, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
It was an odd strategy that does not appear to be well thought out.  Maybe Jeff Spicoli was heading up the operation.



Stupid.  I think Spicoli...no, I know Spicoli was smarter than that...

I think it will be a very sad setback to the effort to help people, in this state, with their medical problems.


But really, all we need is some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and we will be fine...

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote from: DTowner on August 07, 2018, 03:35:19 PM
Yes, lying about the number of signatures or being unable to count names with a 50% accuracy will cause people not to trust you in the same way ignoring the clear language of the initiative and using bribes to change the rules will cause people not to trust you.  It will be interesting to see if the legislative group that has had Green the Vote involved in the discussion of implementing medical marijuana drops them. 

Bribery seems a few notches higher than foolish hubris.

I would think saying you have enough signatures near the end of the petition drive would cost you the signatures of the people who procrastinated.  It reminds me a bit of Faux News declaring Mary Failin winning the governor's race with only one percent of the polls (which were still open) reporting.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric


OKLAHOMA CITY — The interim state health commissioner told a group of lawmakers Wednesday that a special legislative session is the fastest option to ensure State Question 788 goes into effect in a manner that fully takes public health concerns into consideration.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/special-session-may-be-fastest-option-to-implement-medical-marijuana/article_5e1925aa-633a-5207-a89f-0c175bf773c3.html
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

#963
Reefer Madness --
'Conflict and confusion': Law enforcement addresses panel about medical marijuana concerns

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/conflict-and-confusion-law-enforcement-addresses-panel-about-medical-marijuana/article_6eccefc2-8e03-5f2d-a445-5a953eb0c7fd.html

"SQ 788 should have listed qualifying medical conditions because until lawmakers give guidance, law enforcement will likely have to take citizens' claims about them at face value."

In a nutshell, law enforcement in Oklahoma regards the recognition of voter-approved Medical Marijuana as optional.






TPD Cites Home Growing as Main Medical Marijuana Concern

Tulsa Police have specific concerns about medical marijuana, chief among them home-growing regulations.

Deputy Chief Jonathan Brooks said loosely regulated home growing is the biggest contributor to gray- and black-market marijuana.
"What it has allowed is organized crime and drug traffickers to avoid the statutory laws that they already have in place or to circumvent those. It results in the purchasing and renting of houses in neighborhoods and using those homes for grow facilities," Brooks said.
Brooks said in those tight regulations, TPD would like to see medical marijuana home-growing limited to indoors.

When it comes to commercial operations, TPD is looking for limits on who may work in them. Brooks said people with certain felonies should not be allowed in the industry, with those including violent crimes and trafficking convictions.
"In addition to that, any type of gang-related offense that there's a felony conviction with a gang affiliation of some type," Brooks said.

TPD is also anticipating some problems when medical marijuana dispensaries start operating in the city. Brooks said other cities have seen an increase in crime around dispensaries, such as burglaries and robberies involving the business and its customers.
"What we want is a patient that has a need under doctor's care, we want them to be able to go and get that, not become a victim of a crime," Brooks said.

TPD also favors some form of prohibition on officers holding patient cards, and Brooks said urban police departments have some different concerns than rural law enforcement agencies when it comes to medical marijuana.

http://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tpd-cites-home-growing-main-medical-marijuana-concern
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

City officials said they will not put any additional rules to their city rules that are not already laid out in State Question 788.

https://www.fox23.com/news/broken-arrow-city-councilors-consider-new-medical-marijuana-ordinance/817857576
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

Muskogee backs off on stricter medical marijuana ordinances. What have other cities done to address SQ 788?
"The moral question of whether marijuana has a medicinal purpose or is good or bad was decided," Muskogee City Attorney Roy Tucker said after Monday's council meeting. "It was not up to us to make that decision. It was already made. What we needed to do was craft regulations that we would have for any other business, and so that's what we did."


https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/muskogee-backs-off-on-stricter-medical-marijuana-ordinances-what-have/article_0e102458-ce06-5ae2-bb9e-9d5a28ba0194.html

But will Tulsa cave in to the unions?
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: patric on August 28, 2018, 10:50:25 AM
Muskogee backs off on stricter medical marijuana ordinances. What have other cities done to address SQ 788?
"The moral question of whether marijuana has a medicinal purpose or is good or bad was decided," Muskogee City Attorney Roy Tucker said after Monday's council meeting. "It was not up to us to make that decision. It was already made. What we needed to do was craft regulations that we would have for any other business, and so that's what we did."


https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/muskogee-backs-off-on-stricter-medical-marijuana-ordinances-what-have/article_0e102458-ce06-5ae2-bb9e-9d5a28ba0194.html

But will Tulsa cave in to the unions?


Still shows the stupid - it is NOT a 'moral' question of medicinal purpose, it is a scientific question.  And yes, THAT has been decided - there are many good medicinal purposes.

And plants can't be moral or immoral - they are plants.  And if these people really understood and believed what they profess to believe from their particular version of the Bible, they would know that these are all God's Creation with no moral attachment beyond man's warped and distorted view of the world.  Another example; there are actually people out there who believe dandelions and henbit are bad.!!   Stupid humans.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 28, 2018, 04:51:14 PM
Still shows the stupid - it is NOT a 'moral' question of medicinal purpose, it is a scientific question.  And yes, THAT has been decided - there are many good medicinal purposes.


As physicians again push for unpopular medical marijuana restrictions, one lawmaker 'a little frustrated'

Oklahoma Pharmacy Association leader Debra Billingsley urged the working group to use its power to mandate pharmacists work in dispensaries. She said an undercover investigation in Colorado found dispensary workers with no medical training were recommending pregnant women use marijuana for relief from morning sickness.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/as-physicians-again-push-for-unpopular-medical-marijuana-restrictions-one/article_1a508290-ff57-5878-8a26-818ddcf94c4b.html


The Oklahoma law, however, puts that decision in the hands of Doctors, so why is that an issue, and why are the groups implicated in alleged bribery still even in the game?
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

In Broken Arrow you might be able to buy opioids from a drug store within 1,000 feet of a school, but not medical marijuana.
How many pharmaceuticals are treated like 3.2 beer in this state?

https://www.fox23.com/news/broken-arrow-works-on-medical-marijuana-zoning-plan/827284308
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: patric on September 05, 2018, 12:58:54 AM
In Broken Arrow you might be able to buy opioids from a drug store within 1,000 feet of a school, but not medical marijuana.
How many pharmaceuticals are treated like 3.2 beer in this state?

https://www.fox23.com/news/broken-arrow-works-on-medical-marijuana-zoning-plan/827284308


I buy mine literally across the street from one and about 800 ft from another.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.