Biden in Tulsa Today

[Gaspar]

Nah, he came to visit me but got lost in Swan Lake and ended up by the Braums at 28th & Harvard.

Did he tell the cashier to go $%^& off?

[Conan71]

Nope, Dr Stephen Adelson.

They had a brief shot of the motorcade pulling up in front of some residences and it looked like the Adelson's block.  As well, a "Tom" who had been at the fund raiser was in a sound bite on KRMG this morning.  Sure sounded a lot like Tom Adelson.

[AquaMan]

The Braum's clerk told him to get a real job.

He probably met with a small group of true blue Tulsans that included Taylor, Adelson, Kaiser, et al. Hope he spent some money while here.

[AngieB]

The Braum's clerk told him to get a real job.

He probably met with a small group of true blue Tulsans that included Taylor, Adelson, Kaiser, et al. Hope he spent some money while here.

He COLLECTED money while here. 

[Gaspar]

He COLLECTED money while here. 

Well. . .I know he drove by Kathy Taylor's house, perhaps to pick up a check?

[Gaspar]

I just found out from an unlikely fly on the wall that Vice President Biden's meeting with George Kaiser had more to do with a company called Solyndra, and less to do with fundraising.

Apparently, we may be seeing Mr. Kaiser testifying before congress soon.

[Conan71]

I just found out from an unlikely fly on the wall that Vice President Biden's meeting with George Kaiser had more to do with a company called Solyndra, and less to do with fundraising.

Apparently, we may be seeing Mr. Kaiser testifying before congress soon.

What part did Kaiser play in it?

"Solyndra's bankruptcy reveals the failure of Obama administration's energy program, which promoted the loan guarantee, whose first recipient was a startup company in the solar industry - Solyndra.

"This is really bad news.... Half a billion dollars of taxpayer money and we may end up holding the bag," House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) told ABC News. "This is just a classic case of fraud and abuse and waste."

The "Solyndra Effect," one clean-tech investor said, now refers to the chill sent down the spines of potential limited partners of venture capital funds by the massive writedowns experienced by investors in the solar company, reports The Wall Street Journal.

Solyndra will be the third solar company to file bankruptcy protection in August, following Spectrawatt Inc. and Evergreen Solar Inc."

http://newyork.ibtimes.com/articles/207188/20110901/solyndra-bankruptcy-news-solar-panel-doe-omb.htm

[DTowner]

Video on local news looked like motorcade pulled in to the ex-mayor's house.

Washington Post article discusses Kaiser's involvement in Solyndra.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/solyndra-solar-company-fails-after-getting-controversial-federal-loan-guarantees/2011/08/31/gIQAB8IRsJ_story.html

[Townsend]

"This is really bad news.... Half a billion dollars of taxpayer money and we may end up holding the bag, "House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.)  told ABC News. "This is just a classic case of fraud and abuse and waste."

I'm going to suggest that House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) brought the idea to the table and is now CYA'ing.  I have no proof.  It just wouldn't shock me.

[dbacks fan]

What part did Kaiser play in it?

"Solyndra's bankruptcy reveals the failure of Obama administration's energy program, which promoted the loan guarantee, whose first recipient was a startup company in the solar industry - Solyndra.

"This is really bad news.... Half a billion dollars of taxpayer money and we may end up holding the bag," House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) told ABC News. "This is just a classic case of fraud and abuse and waste."

The "Solyndra Effect," one clean-tech investor said, now refers to the chill sent down the spines of potential limited partners of venture capital funds by the massive writedowns experienced by investors in the solar company, reports The Wall Street Journal.

Solyndra will be the third solar company to file bankruptcy protection in August, following Spectrawatt Inc. and Evergreen Solar Inc."

http://newyork.ibtimes.com/articles/207188/20110901/solyndra-bankruptcy-news-solar-panel-doe-omb.htm

But, but, they promised all these jobs created by green energy companies!!!!!!!!

[dbacks fan]

I just found out from an unlikely fly on the wall that Vice President Biden's meeting with George Kaiser had more to do with a company called Solyndra, and less to do with fundraising.

Apparently, we may be seeing Mr. Kaiser testifying before congress soon.

Is Kaiser involved with any of these?

Solyndra also received some $1 billion in venture capital funds from investors including CMEA Ventures, Argonaut Ventures, Madrone Partners, Redpoint Ventures, funds affiliated with RockPort Capital Partners, and U.S. Venture Partners

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/01/us-solyndra-idUSTRE77U5K420110901

That could explain some of what you heard.

[Cats Cats Cats]

There has been an increase in solar power plant proposals in the last few years.

[heironymouspasparagus]

But, but, they promised all these jobs created by green energy companies!!!!!!!!

As commented on repeatedly here - those jobs were lost over the last 30 years to Germany and the Pacific Rim, especially China.  Duh!!
The US gubmint also got into Solyndra for some, too.

First Solar is last man standing here.  Perrysburg, OH is where they do at least some, if not all, of their manufacturing.

We missed the boat for large scale manufacturing in this country.  We can and are capturing at least some of the market for installation/service.

As far as money invested, well I submit...again...that ANY spending/subsidy like this beats the $1.2 trillion Bush gave to his banker and insurance buddies.  Come back when it gets close to a trillion, and we can talk again.



 

[dbacks fan]

As commented on repeatedly here - those jobs were lost over the last 30 years to Germany and the Pacific Rim, especially China.  Duh!!
The US gubmint also got into Solyndra for some, too.

First Solar is last man standing here.  Perrysburg, OH is where they do at least some, if not all, of their manufacturing.

We missed the boat for large scale manufacturing in this country.  We can and are capturing at least some of the market for installation/service.

As far as money invested, well I submit...again...that ANY spending/subsidy like this beats the $1.2 trillion Bush gave to his banker and insurance buddies.  Come back when it gets close to a trillion, and we can talk again.

First Solar is building a plant in Mesa, AZ that will have the potential to employ up to 5,000 at build out.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/local/mesa/article_09816c14-50c2-11e0-9756-001cc4c002e0.html



 

[Gaspar]

Is Kaiser involved with any of these?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/01/us-solyndra-idUSTRE77U5K420110901

That could explain some of what you heard.

Allegedly. . .many of the loan documents required by law do not exist. . . and the e-mail communications between the company, and the White House have also gone missing.

The company was loaned 500 Million dollars backed by George Kaiser, days after Price Waterhouse issued a warning that the company may not be solvent.  If the company was allowed, through political influence, to bypass regulations and skip the application process for the sake of quick PR, this will end up being a big deal because it cost half a billion dollars and thousands of jobs.  This would represent a significant felonious act, and anyone with knowledge of it would be accessory.

Stock holders are now demanding investigations into Evergreen Solar (of which I owned 500 shares) as well as several other companies that received quick green stimulus cash and then ended up filing for bankruptcy to see if the same application requirements were ignored, therefore artificially inflating the value of the stocks, and industry.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-administration-solyndra/story?id=13640783