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Started by hello, September 02, 2011, 08:40:59 AM

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jacobi

So I have to say, there are no new permits up on the glass, but, It does seem that there is SOME movement.  There were people doing some work in there today.  Let's see what the next few weeks hold.  Also, if you read the article, it seems to me that he is talking about S&J oyster company.  Which would be pretty damn sweet.  :)
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ZYX

Here's the article:
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/big-changes-coming-tulsas-blue-dome-district/nDczT/

It's a pretty good read if you're interested in the Blue Dome District. It does at least seem like he's pretty close to having at the least 1st floor occupied. Hopefully the whole project is finished soon.

sgrizzle

Quote from: ZYX on September 06, 2011, 06:54:21 PM
Here's the article:
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/big-changes-coming-tulsas-blue-dome-district/nDczT/

It's a pretty good read if you're interested in the Blue Dome District. It does at least seem like he's pretty close to having at the least 1st floor occupied. Hopefully the whole project is finished soon.

I like how he said it's "In The Raw" without actually saying it. They've been circling the blue dome area for years looking into options, but haven't landed yet. It would be a good deal for Sager's project.

DTowner

Quote from: sgrizzle on September 07, 2011, 10:54:42 AM
I like how he said it's "In The Raw" without actually saying it. They've been circling the blue dome area for years looking into options, but haven't landed yet. It would be a good deal for Sager's project.


Actually, the article says "formerly resided in Brookside".   That sounds a lot more like "S&J" than "In The Raw."

Townsend

Quote from: DTowner on September 07, 2011, 11:00:24 AM
Actually, the article says "formerly resided in Brookside".   That sounds a lot more like "S&J" than "In The Raw."

It also said this,
QuoteDeveloper Michael Sager, the man at the center of the Blue Dome District and its heart and soul,
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DTowner

Quote from: Townsend on September 07, 2011, 11:06:59 AM
It also said this, .

Yeah, that sentence made me wonder if Sager had written the article.

Conan71

Sager suffers from math issues.  Albert G's has been on Harvard for about 19 years not 25.  What I heard on the radio suggested the "Brookside eatery" had been around 35 years.  S & J, as I recall opened in 1982 or '83.

Certainly, he'd never exaggerate.  Let's just hope he gets his damned project finished soon.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

DTowner

Quote from: Conan71 on September 07, 2011, 11:24:26 AM
Sager suffers from math issues.  Albert G's has been on Harvard for about 19 years not 25.  What I heard on the radio suggested the "Brookside eatery" had been around 35 years.  S & J, as I recall opened in 1982 or '83.

Certainly, he'd never exaggerate.  Let's just hope he gets his damned project finished soon.

At the risk of sounding myoptic, or perhaps downright pedantic, I put all Sager and Sager related projects in the "sounds nice, but I'll believe it when I see it" category.

sgrizzle


Nik

Would someone like to give me some background on the board's feelings towards Sager? Seems he's been coming up a lot lately. I've met the guy one time and he seemed real nice.

ZYX

Quote from: Nik on September 07, 2011, 03:46:13 PM
Would someone like to give me some background on the board's feelings towards Sager? Seems he's been coming up a lot lately. I've met the guy one time and he seemed real nice.

His failure to complete a project that has been under construction since like 2006 is the main contributing factor. It wouldn't be such a big deal if he wasn't using taxpayer money.

Townsend

Quote from: Nik on September 07, 2011, 03:46:13 PM
Would someone like to give me some background on the board's feelings towards Sager? Seems he's been coming up a lot lately. I've met the guy one time and he seemed real nice.

Nice guy.  It's the lofts.  Makes me wish the money had gone elsewhere.

Conan71

Quote from: Nik on September 07, 2011, 03:46:13 PM
Would someone like to give me some background on the board's feelings towards Sager? Seems he's been coming up a lot lately. I've met the guy one time and he seemed real nice.

He's very nice.  Even throws down a nice spread during the Blue Dome festival. 

Long on vision, short on cash and ability to finish projects on time when he's dealing with his own money and borrowed money ostensibly.

When Lee's first opened, Adam told me Sager helped move his project along a lot quicker than it would have gone otherwise as he knows how to navigate the system with the city.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

S & J story:

Per Tulsa World FB:


QuoteDiners still craving the oysters, crab cakes, gumbo and etouffee from the old S&J Seafood Cafe & Oyster Bar have something to celebrate.

S&J, which disappeared from the restaurant scene seven years ago, will return next spring in the Blue Dome District downtown.

It will occupy the ground floor of the First Street Lofts, 320 E. First St., also scheduled for a spring opening.

Michelle and Howard Smith opened the first S&J in 1983 at 3301 S. Peoria Ave. and closed the last one in November 2004 at 3629 S. Peoria Ave.

Howard Smith is serving as a consultant to the new ownership, headed by Bill Parkey.

Smith, Parkey and Michael Sager, building owner and developer of First Street Lofts, met for an interview Friday at the site of the new S&J.

"I was a minor partner with Bill's dad, Ike Parkey, at my first Tulsa restaurant, Across the Street, in 1968, so I've known Bill all his life," Smith said. "I didn't have to close S&J, but I was ready to retire, and I just didn't want to transition ownership until I found someone I really trusted to do it right."

Parkey, whose father also owned the Silver Castle restaurants in Tulsa, said he originally approached Smith about a different restaurant concept. He said he had been in the organic beef business in Craig County for 17 years and was ready for a career change.

"I ran across the original Silver Castle franchise records, which my mom had kept in a box all of these years," Parkey said. "I first talked to Howard about what it would take to open Silver Castles again. The conversation then evolved into reviving S&J instead."

The new restaurant, projected to seat 212 in 5,000 square feet, will have an enclosed courtyard full of green plants facing First Street, a bar area and private dining room.

Smith and Parkey said they intend to retain most of the original menu.

"I was going over the recipe cards with Bill, and it looks as though we will be able to keep most of the items," Smith said. "I almost forgot about the chicken wings before the wife of a friend of mine reminded me they need Parkey said he already is looking forward to Mardi Gras in 2013 and a crawfish festival next year.

"We have some great special events we plan to develop," Parkey said.

Smith and Parkey said rumors about an S&J revival already have led to former employees inquiring about returning to the restaurant.

For many years the building housed Monger Fixture Co., Sager said. More recently it held Finales restaurant, which closed a few years ago. Sager said S&J will share the ground floor with a boutique liquor store, and the upper floors will hold 27 lofts.

"I'm just proud to have something to do with bringing S&J back," Sager said.

Cats Cats Cats

Its 310 E First St
Putting a new Restaurant in a building that is currently in foreclosure.. Nice!