Council Election Recap as of 9:15 PM

[guido911]

So which party took the beating? I do not follow Tulsa council business very closely.

[Breadburner]

The Incumbant Party....

[Hoss]

Won't really matter now, as starting with the next council vote, you aren't required to disclose your party affiliation.  I say good.  Can't remember the last time I gave a squat about what some municipal politician's stance was on legalized abortion.

[custosnox]

Won't really matter now, as starting with the next council vote, you aren't required to disclose your party affiliation.  I say good.  Can't remember the last time I gave a squat about what some municipal politician's stance was on legalized abortion.

But do you think this will keep them from doing everything they can to make sure everyone knows their political party?

[guido911]

But do you think this will keep them from doing everything they can to make sure everyone knows their political party?

Spot on. Making an election non-partisan will not stop candidates from doing precisely that.

[Hoss]

Spot on. Making an election non-partisan will not stop candidates from doing precisely that.

Possibly, but should it do what I hope then maybe it will make people think about who they're voting for and ask questions, instead of voting on the party line.  If Blake Ewing had been my councilor, knowing what I know about him, I could care less about the letter in parenthesis next to his name.  It just isn't as relevant when it comes to municipal office.

[custosnox]

Possibly, but should it do what I hope then maybe it will make people think about who they're voting for and ask questions, instead of voting on the party line.  If Blake Ewing had been my councilor, knowing what I know about him, I could care less about the letter in parenthesis next to his name.  It just isn't as relevant when it comes to municipal office.

I think one of the biggest advantages on this is it is going to end the habit of stopping things at the primary.  This way everyone in the district can actually vote.

[AquaMan]

Yes, that and the fact that practically everyone in Tulsa is republican anyway. The reddest city, in the reddest state in the reddest of times. Actually is a deficit to put the D next to your name. You never see them on the signs thats for sure.

I thought it strange how strongly the charter change was voted down. It seems clear to me that we need professional management and a dilution of the mayoral/council feuding. I guess it was too complicated for the public to support. Bartlett probably won this one. For now.

[Red Arrow]

Yes, that and the fact that practically everyone in Tulsa is republican anyway. The reddest city, in the reddest state in the reddest of times. Actually is a deficit to put the D next to your name. You never see them on the signs thats for sure.

A lot different than my memory of when our family moved here from PA in 1971. 

[guido911]

Yes, that and the fact that practically everyone in Tulsa is republican anyway. The reddest city, in the reddest state in the reddest of times. Actually is a deficit to put the D next to your name. You never see them on the signs thats for sure.

I thought it strange how strongly the charter change was voted down. It seems clear to me that we need professional management and a dilution of the mayoral/council feuding. I guess it was too complicated for the public to support. Bartlett probably won this one. For now.

I'd be curious as know for certain the political leanings in this forum because it seems pretty even.

[AquaMan]

As far as active members? Probably even. Lurkers? Probably the same ratio as the city council. Are there 2 Dems now?

Yes, RA, the city has changed a bit since 1971.

[guido911]

Yes, RA, the city has changed a bit since 1971.

Your old.  O/T. I hope the changes with yesterdays vote lifts the party stuff out of local politics. Hoss is right to a degree that social issues such as LGBT or abortion have little to do with running a city. Still, a candidate's position on immigration, health care, housing, which are part of the national dialogue, do have a place in local politics in my opinion.

[AquaMan]

Perhaps it will increase participation. I asked the folks I work with if they voted yesterday. Aged 21 to 40. None of them had voted. One didn't even know there was an election till she saw names streaming across her shows which irritated her. We are governed by what, 10% of our population? Shameful.

[guido911]

Perhaps it will increase participation. I asked the folks I work with if they voted yesterday. Aged 21 to 40. None of them had voted. One didn't even know there was an election till she saw names streaming across her shows which irritated her. We are governed by what, 10% of our population? Shameful.

It's more than shameful, it's damned embarrassing. Just think about sitting in a movie theater with 100 people and only 10 voted. In a theater with 1,000, only 100 voted....

[Red Arrow]

You're old. 

Yep.  Pretty soon all you youngsters will supporting me on Social Security.