Bell's Amusing Park???

[carltonplace]

You mean besides kicking puppies and chasing other guys' women?

I don't like the guy. He politicked from his ticket booth at the drive-in telling me to be sure and vote against Clinton cause he was going to raise the minimum wage and he would have to close down the theatre. Clinton won, the minimum wage went up and he did well enough to open another theatre in Jenks.  I'm sure he hates Obama too.

Then his constantly raising the bar for donations to rebuild his uninsured, burnt down drive-in hit me wrong. Every good businessman knows the value of insurance. He skated. A kids playground was at the base of a wooden, 50 year old, uninsured, fire hazard. It burned down and he now can only re-build it with the help of well meaning former customers. Well, at least its not a government freebie.

Other than that?

Snap!

[Conan71]

You mean besides kicking puppies and chasing other guys' women?

I don't like the guy. He politicked from his ticket booth at the drive-in telling me to be sure and vote against Clinton cause he was going to raise the minimum wage and he would have to close down the theatre. Clinton won, the minimum wage went up and he did well enough to open another theatre in Jenks.  I'm sure he hates Obama too.

Then his constantly raising the bar for donations to rebuild his uninsured, burnt down drive-in hit me wrong. Every good businessman knows the value of insurance. He skated. A kids playground was at the base of a wooden, 50 year old, uninsured, fire hazard. It burned down and he now can only re-build it with the help of well meaning former customers. Well, at least its not a government freebie.

Other than that?

I don't think that's the same guy.  I thought the fellow that owns it now has had it 10 years or less.  The last opportunity to vote for Clinton was in '96.  Someone feel free to correct me if they know otherwise.

[swake]

You mean besides kicking puppies and chasing other guys' women?

I don't like the guy. He politicked from his ticket booth at the drive-in telling me to be sure and vote against Clinton cause he was going to raise the minimum wage and he would have to close down the theatre. Clinton won, the minimum wage went up and he did well enough to open another theatre in Jenks.  I'm sure he hates Obama too.

Then his constantly raising the bar for donations to rebuild his uninsured, burnt down drive-in hit me wrong. Every good businessman knows the value of insurance. He skated. A kids playground was at the base of a wooden, 50 year old, uninsured, fire hazard. It burned down and he now can only re-build it with the help of well meaning former customers. Well, at least its not a government freebie.

Other than that?

You are upset over a comment he made when Clinton was running for president in 1992? Now that's a grudge, it must have been a helluva insult.

I don't know the guy, but how old is Blake Smith? Is he old enough to have owned the place in '92, he doesn't look it in photos online. I also know that as late as the late 80s that the place was owned by General Cinemas because I knew people that worked there back then.

[zstyles]

http://www.kiddiepark.net/ Actual amusement park right down the highway for a fun day out...

Not sure if I would take my kids over to the flea market to ride some rides...I don't get how this is a good idea...

[Townsend]

I was curious if the miniature backhoe they kept showing Bell on was one of the rides.  He didn't look like he ran that terribly well either.

[Conan71]

http://www.kiddiepark.net/ Actual amusement park right down the highway for a fun day out...

Not sure if I would take my kids over to the flea market to ride some rides...I don't get how this is a good idea...

Probably finally got a freebie on the land.  Other than the time of setting it up, I bet Robby is out very little.  I don't think he's got a whole lot of cash to put into it in the first place.  If he did, we wouldn't be having this conversation five years after he packed up from the fairgrounds.

[AquaMan]

You are upset over a comment he made when Clinton was running for president in 1992? Now that's a grudge, it must have been a helluva insult.

I don't know the guy, but how old is Blake Smith? Is he old enough to have owned the place in '92, he doesn't look it in photos online. I also know that as late as the late 80s that the place was owned by General Cinemas because I knew people that worked there back then.

Yes, and it could have been as late as 1996 since my boys would still have been the age to go to a drive in with parents. But yes. You don't badger your customers with your personal politics while they are waiting in line to give you their money. It was arrogant and indulgent.

It was a family operation and from reports in the TW about the opening of Riverwalk Cinema 10 years later was still so. The gentleman whose pic I saw after the fire looked to be the same guy only older. If not him then the story is still accurate as to the owner at that time. But is that the best you can do? Accuse me of an old grudge? That wasn't nearly as important as putting customers, and customers' children at risk with his un-insured, fire hazard operation. Or increasing the cost of replacement once he determined his customers would help pay for his oversight.

[Conan71]

Yes, and it could have been as late as 1996 since my boys would still have been the age to go to a drive in with parents. But yes. You don't badger your customers with your personal politics while they are waiting in line to give you their money. It was arrogant and indulgent.

It was a family operation and from reports in the TW about the opening of Riverwalk Cinema 10 years later was still so. The gentleman whose pic I saw after the fire looked to be the same guy only older. If not him then the story is still accurate as to the owner at that time. But is that the best you can do? Accuse me of an old grudge? That wasn't nearly as important as putting customers, and customers' children at risk with his un-insured, fire hazard operation. Or increasing the cost of replacement once he determined his customers would help pay for his oversight.

He didn't make an oversight.  You simply cannot get insurance on a large wood structure like that.  No one will touch it.

[swake]

Yes, and it could have been as late as 1996 since my boys would still have been the age to go to a drive in with parents. But yes. You don't badger your customers with your personal politics while they are waiting in line to give you their money. It was arrogant and indulgent.

It was a family operation and from reports in the TW about the opening of Riverwalk Cinema 10 years later was still so. The gentleman whose pic I saw after the fire looked to be the same guy only older. If not him then the story is still accurate as to the owner at that time. But is that the best you can do? Accuse me of an old grudge? That wasn't nearly as important as putting customers, and customers' children at risk with his un-insured, fire hazard operation. Or increasing the cost of replacement once he determined his customers would help pay for his oversight.

This guy owned the Admiral Twin in '92 or '96? Really?



http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectid=283&articleid=20110820_282_A15_CUTLIN517376

I know for a fact that it was not a family business, at least not in the late 80s. It was corporate owned by General Cinema to at least 1987 or 1988 because I had friends back then in high school that worked for other GC theaters that would have to work there at times on weekends in the summer when it was open.

[AquaMan]

He didn't make an oversight.  You simply cannot get insurance on a large wood structure like that.  No one will touch it.

Then you buy a bond, you upgrade to metal or you shut down. He has no excuse.

[AquaMan]

This guy owned the Admiral Twin in '92 or '96? Really?



http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectid=283&articleid=20110820_282_A15_CUTLIN517376

I know for a fact that it was not a family business, at least not in the late 80s. It was corporate owned by General Cinema to at least 1987 or 1988 because I had friends back then in high school that worked for other GC theaters that would have to work there at times on weekends in the summer when it was open.

Sorry, I won't rely on your friends. I will do some checking though. As far as that pic, well....ever seen something on C-list that looked low mileage then found it to be junk? I can't tell how old he is but he could be in his late thirties and still have been the guy.

Still choose to ignore the suspect way he ran the drive in business? What if your kids were playing on the swings below the screen when it caught fire and caused a mass exodus of cars? Or the way the cost keeps going up on rebuild using donations? Unconscionable to me.

[AquaMan]

According to a story in the Tulsa World on September 9th of 2010, the Admiral Twin was family owned since 1987. Blake may very well be the guy who took my ticket.

He also admitted that he couldn't insure the property because it was wooden framed. Simply no excuse at all and I doubt a cab company or any other service provider could get by with it. In most businesses, if something is un-insurable its because it is judged to be a poor risk or one that is not measurable and therefor is not offered to the public without disclaimer.

[Conan71]

According to a story in the Tulsa World on September 9th of 2010, the Admiral Twin was family owned since 1987. Blake may very well be the guy who took my ticket.

He also admitted that he couldn't insure the property because it was wooden framed. Simply no excuse at all and I doubt a cab company or any other service provider could get by with it. In most businesses, if something is un-insurable its because it is judged to be a poor risk or one that is not measurable and therefor is not offered to the public without disclaimer.

Structure insurance is strictly for the benefit of the owner and wouldn't have kept it from going up in flames.  As a business owner, there is no requirement you insure your structures unless it's mortgaged and your lender requires it.  Your building is generally not considered to be a hazard to others, though your actions or inactions in maintaining it could be.  That's what liability insurance is for.  Just like a vehicle.  You have the option to buy property insurance to protect you and or your lender from hazards and you have liability insurance to protect others from your negligence operating the vehicle or if it slips out of gear, etc.

As well, Blake had no more reason to expect his screen would go up in flames with children playing near it than you have an expectation for your furnace to blow up when you are having a holiday party with 30 guests in your house.

Relax a little, spontaneous combustion happens 

[Teatownclown]

Lloyd's will insure anything....

Wittle Robbie needs to get up on the Carney biz and take his show on the road....

[tulsabug]

If he simply stays true to serving young kids, young families and maintaining his equipment

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