Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

[Townsend]

He's leaving it on a police car.

You sure it's not just a bum doing what a bum does?

[Gaspar]

So, instead of posting the umpteenth video of lazy/stinky/misleadingly edited OWS protesters, how about you instead predict where it will end?  Will it follow the Tea Party path and influence the Dems or will it fade away when the weather turns cold?  Will it shift the political debate as much as the Tea Party did?  Will one, some, or all of the OWS beefs find their way translated into policy or into another group?  

In other words, stop being douches and actually have a conversation about this stuff.  

Oh Lord! I hope so, because that would be the icing on the OWS cake!

The Repubs had a knot yanked in their tails by people representing their base who had remained silent until they could take no more.

If you think that the Dems want to embrace this group as their base then so be it.

Either way there are strong currents ahead.  A battle between those who demand liberty from growing government and those who demand dependence on government.  

What do you think?  Is this the group that the Democrat party wants to identify with?

[dbacks fan]

Is there any organized support?  Anything that can be named or is it someone on the corner of 5th and main saying "they've got money from people."?

Nearly $300,000 in cash has been donated through the movement's website and by visitors to the park, said Bill Dobbs, a press liaison for Occupy Wall Street.

http://gulfnews.com/business/general/month-old-protest-gets-300-000-in-donations-1.897462

[Conan71]

I don't know about you, but I tend to not take very seriously or converse with people that crap on police cars. Oh I know, this picture is VERY misleading.

Actually this has been disproven.  I believe it was determined he was flogging the dolphin, saluting the bishop, shaking hands with the unemployed, etc.

[guido911]

You sure it's not just a bum doing what a bum does?

Oh I'm sure that's what he is--except this bum is part of OWS. Even Jon Stewart believes it (2:45 of the video).

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-18/politics/30292527_1_satire-blog-daily-show-full-episodes-jon-stewart

[we vs us]

Great way to try and start a rational coversation, but then again there are a few people here with that same attitude when others are trying to have a real discussion.

By the way, calling someone a "dude" is one of those juvinile tactics that cause you to lose credability in discussions.

When the conversation to date has consisted exclusively of pointing and laughing at the "hippies,"  pretty much anything is going to raise the caliber of discussion.  Including me dropping the d-word. 

If you think that kills my credibility, and that me asking for a better conversation is disrespectful or somehow below this board, feel free to put me on ignore. 


 

[guido911]

Actually this has been disproven.  I believe it was determined he was flogging the dolphin, saluting the bishop, shaking hands with the unemployed, etc.

Or he is awaiting a blumpkin.

[Gaspar]

Or he is awaiting a blumpkin.

That made me smile (for the record, I actually said "smile" there).

[dbacks fan]

When the conversation to date has consisted exclusively of pointing and laughing at the "hippies,"  pretty much anything is going to raise the caliber of discussion.  Including me dropping the d-word. 
If you think that kills my credibility, and that me asking for a better conversation is disrespectful or somehow below this board, feel free to put me on ignore. 

At 34 pages and growing there has been actuall discussion as to what their list of demands is, where they are getting support from, what direction will this go, what is their end game etc. And on several occasions this thread has been hijacked, sidetracked, and yes there is the inevitable poking fun and joking about these people, which is normal for here. I was pointing out my "opinion" on calling peolpe "douches" and the fact that it seems to be the usual insult that teens and twenty somethings throw around.

[Gaspar]

At 34 pages and growing there has been actuall discussion as to what their list of demands is, where they are getting support from, what direction will this go, what is their end game etc. And on several occasions this thread has been hijacked, sidetracked, and yes there is the inevitable poking fun and joking about these people, which is normal for here. I was pointing out my "opinion" on calling peolpe "douches" and the fact that it seems to be the usual insult that teens and twenty somethings throw around.

"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."--Elbert Hubbard

[nathanm]

Point and laugh if you like, but the fact of the matter is that it's just as silly as the lefties who pointed and laughed at the tea party as a whole because of a few fringe morons. Maybe the newspapers are making it up, but it seems like pretty much every article I've read has included at least one quote from a person who is holding down a good job.

Ignore mass discontent at your own peril. History shows that it's not a wise course of action.

[Gaspar]

Ignore mass discontent at your own peril. History shows that it's not a wise course of action.

That is a very good point.

[dbacks fan]

Maybe the newspapers are making it up, but it seems like pretty much every article I've read has included at least one quote from a person who is holding down a good job.

Not trying to change you statement, using part for a quote.......

4.   Employment:  Are you employed, underemployed, or unemployed?
53% Employed
18% Part-time employed/ underemployed
14% Students
15% Unemployed

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23835520/Occupy%20Wall%20Street%20Poll.docx

According to this poll data almost 2/3 are employed.

[guido911]

Not trying to change you statement, using part for a quote.......

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23835520/Occupy%20Wall%20Street%20Poll.docx

According to this poll data almost 2/3 are employed.

What employer allows its employees to be off work this long? And in other news, I read KKK man David Duke is backing OWS. I'm sure that will help a pant load.

[Gaspar]

Since 53% are employed, I would love to see a survey of those job titles.

1. Teaching Assistant
2. Blogger
3. Performance Artist
4. Traveling Barista
5. Juggler
6. Freelance Social Worker
7. Experimental Bra Fitter
8. Xbox Game Tester
9. Internet Sales Associate
10. Automotive Detailer Too capitalist!
11. Adjunct Professor
12. Trust Fund Allocation Specialist
13. Parental Care Reception Technician
14. Medicinal Marijuana Clinician
15. Union Representative
16. Community Organizer