Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

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Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on November 14, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
I think it's so everyone can hear.

I thought it was because the followers don't have two brain cells left to rub together.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Teatownclown



Flash mobs rock too....

I also love those technological advances in guerrilla theater!

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on November 14, 2011, 03:24:15 PM
I thought it was because the followers don't have two brain cells left to rub together.

followers? there's no leader....

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on November 14, 2011, 03:16:23 PM
What's with the creepy group-think, repeat-after-me thing they have going on?  

The various cities won't let them use bullhorns or other amplified sound gear (in NYC, at least, they applied for permits and were denied), so they have to do that so everyone can hear what's being said. It's called resourcefulness.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: Teatownclown on November 14, 2011, 03:27:16 PM
followers? there's no leader....

Ah, so who is the dude or dudette at the front of the group leading the group chant?  The first follower reading the material that George Soros was provided to them?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on November 14, 2011, 04:25:53 PM
Ah, so who is the dude or dudette at the front of the group leading the group chant?  The first follower reading the material that George Soros was provided to them?

The speaker, whomever that may be at the time. You know, like at a city council meeting, only one where there is no microphone and there are too many people for it to be possible for the speaker to speak loudly enough for all to hear.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on November 14, 2011, 04:27:57 PM
The speaker, whomever that may be at the time. You know, like at a city council meeting, only one where there is no microphone and there are too many people for it to be possible for the speaker to speak loudly enough for all to hear.

I don't know why you've taken it upon yourself to make excuses for occupiers speaking like Kindergarteners.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on November 14, 2011, 05:59:57 PM
I don't know why you've taken it upon yourself to make excuses for occupiers speaking like Kindergarteners.

I don't know why you've taken it upon yourself to compare people who are working around the asinine and undemocratic restrictions imposed upon them by their government to kindergarteners. If you have a better idea, I'm sure they'd be happy to hear it.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on November 14, 2011, 06:24:17 PM
I don't know why you've taken it upon yourself to compare people who are working around the asinine and undemocratic restrictions imposed upon them by their government to kindergarteners. If you have a better idea, I'm sure they'd be happy to hear it.

Um, how about voting? You don't like the way government operates, try voting. Or, put your name on a ballot and run for office. Can't get any more democratic than that. What these rapists, drug users, car crappers, pee throwers, vandals, violent animals, thieves do nothing to advance the cause of democracy. And they are kindergartners.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

Quote from: Conan71 on November 14, 2011, 05:59:57 PM
I don't know why you've taken it upon yourself to make excuses for occupiers speaking like Kindergarteners.

He's not lying.  It's called the human megaphone.  The Occupay groups literally hold whole debates by passing the salient points along person by person.  They've actually done a relatively effective jobs of self organizing using this method.

we vs us

Quote from: guido911 on November 14, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
Um, how about voting? You don't like the way government operates, try voting. Or, put your name on a ballot and run for office. Can't get any more democratic than that. What these rapists, drug users, car crappers, pee throwers, vandals, violent animals, thieves do nothing to advance the cause of democracy. And they are kindergartners.

I think you're listening to the wrong media.  From the things that you've posted (how many pages now?) it's clear that your conception of these protests is lopsided.  I don't really have a dog in this hunt -- I'm not a particular supporter of OWS -- but from the things you've been saying, it's clear that you're relying on very narrow fact gathering channels. 

I know . . . surprise, right?  Just thought I'd point that out.  But yeah, the OWS people are mostly voters. And they're mostly employed, and a good share are college educated, and the majority of the sentiment isn't for communism or socialism or any other of your despised -isms.  It's for a fairer setup, which, by the way, much of the popular scholarship of the day confirms as something we need like we haven't needed in awhile.  I know it's not in your interest to see that or to even acknowledge these protests as anything more than opportunities for your favorite animal species -- the liberal in heat? -- to congregate and get it on and smoke some weed and try to sponge off the Silent Majority tax base but I guess I want to assure you that the times are different, and the people you're deriding are posing a series of much more difficult questions than you're seeing or addressing. 

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guido911

Quote from: we vs us on November 14, 2011, 10:26:39 PM
He's not lying.  It's called the human megaphone.  The Occupay groups literally hold whole debates by passing the salient points along person by person.  They've actually done a relatively effective jobs of self organizing using this method.

Down Twinkles on the human megaphone.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: we vs us on November 14, 2011, 10:47:01 PM
I think you're listening to the wrong media.  From the things that you've posted (how many pages now?) it's clear that your conception of these protests is lopsided.  I don't really have a dog in this hunt -- I'm not a particular supporter of OWS -- but from the things you've been saying, it's clear that you're relying on very narrow fact gathering channels. 

I know . . . surprise, right?  Just thought I'd point that out.  But yeah, the OWS people are mostly voters. And they're mostly employed, and a good share are college educated, and the majority of the sentiment isn't for communism or socialism or any other of your despised -isms.  It's for a fairer setup, which, by the way, much of the popular scholarship of the day confirms as something we need like we haven't needed in awhile.  I know it's not in your interest to see that or to even acknowledge these protests as anything more than opportunities for your favorite animal species -- the liberal in heat? -- to congregate and get it on and smoke some weed and try to sponge off the Silent Majority tax base but I guess I want to assure you that the times are different, and the people you're deriding are posing a series of much more difficult questions than you're seeing or addressing. 

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My view of the Pee Protests are a result of their conduct. Sorry you can't see that.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

Quote from: guido911 on November 14, 2011, 10:56:55 PM
My view of the Pee Protests are a result of their conduct. Sorry you can't see that.

I get what you're saying but I'm trying to tell you your information is incomplete.   Do with that what you will.