Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

[nathanm]

embarrassing deification incidents.

Who is being deified?

[we vs us]

Don't blame them. Chicago is falling apart.  OWS seems to be able to make a spectacle at every public event there.  Rahm can't do anything without some kind of protest march or unwashed gathering.

Probably not a real good idea to have leaders from around the globe all converge in an area so insecure.

The president needs the movement, and it would be damaging to him if they produced an international embarrassment, or something worse.  Camp David is secluded and offers an unbelievably secure stronghold that will be difficult to penetrate by prying eyes, and avoids embarrassing deification incidents.

I don't blame them at all. I think it was a smart decision for a variety of reasons -- some self-serving for the President and some not.  On the other hand, if the Anonymous and Occupy twitter feeds are any indication, they don't care where the G8 is held, and are already advertising maps of the compound for "camping."  

Chicago's actually a bit on the upswing; I'm not sure what you mean by falling apart.  Rahm's high profile has been good for the city's economy so far, and he's used his leverage to get some stuff done.  I don't think the NATO summit alone will have nearly the risk a combo NATO/G8 would've; at the same time, there will still be demonstrations, and probably some very high profile ones at that.  I still think the OWS Spring Offensive is going to be pretty intense.    

[patric]

Berkeley Police Chief Michael Meehan has come under fire after sending an armed sergeant to Oakland Tribune reporter Doug Oakley's home in the middle of the night to push for changes to a story.

According to the Oakland Tribune, Meehan claimed that Oakley misquoted him in a story. Minutes after reading the article, Meehan ordered Sgt. Mary Kusmiss to visit the reporter's home and request that he correct the article -- at 12:45 a.m.

Oakley had reported on Meehan's comments at a community meeting regarding the murder of Berkeley resident Peter Cukor -- an incident that garnered significant media attention after it was reported that the police may not have responded since they were busy with an Occupy protest.

A recording of police radio transmissions shows that at about 8:57  p.m., Officer Jerome Cobert offered to respond to several reports he had noticed on his patrol-car computer, including Cukor's call. A dispatcher told him "no" because the department was only dispatching emergency calls, in light of the deployment of a contingent of officers to monitor an Occupy protest march that would be coming into the city from Oakland later that night.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/10/michael-meehan-berkeley-police_n_1336992.html   http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2012/03/09/angry-meeting-over-berkeley-hills-slaying/

[patric]

Quote of the day:

"There was a banner hung between two trees and a tarp thrown over it ... It wasn't a tent. It was an erect thing, if that's what you want to call it."  -- Sandra Nurse of Occupy, disputing NYPD's claim that demonstrators had broken park rules by putting up tents or getting out sleeping bags.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/17/national/a143959D79.DTL&tsp=1

[guido911]

^^^^^^^

[nathanm]

Yes, guido, unnecessary violence is a great way to protect the people's freedom of speech and assembly.

[dbacks fan]

Yes, guido, unnecessary violence is a great way to protect the people's freedom of speech and assembly.

And the video only tells half the story, doesen't show what led up to the police attempting to take the person into custody.

[guido911]

Yes, guido, unnecessary violence is a great way to protect the people's freedom of speech and assembly.

Are you freakin serious? After all the rapes, assaults, drug crimes, child abuse, and every other activity pointed out in this thread that takes place at OWS and now violence bother you?

[Ed W]

Are you freakin serious? After all the rapes, assaults, drug crimes, child abuse, and every other activity pointed out in this thread that takes place at OWS and now violence bother you?

Yes, and there were undoubtedly some car thefts, bike thefts, purse snatchings, unpaid parking tickets, and even overdue books in or near OWS.  So what?  Any big crowd attracts predators.  Have you ever been to a big event held in the evening?  There are uniformed and plainclothes cops everywhere.  But at OWS camps, the uniformed cops weren't present - at least not inside - so the predators had greater freedom.

You need to get out of your gated community more, Guido.  Out in the real world, only the authoritarians still see cops as Officer Friendly. 

[guido911]

Yes, and there were undoubtedly some car thefts, bike thefts, purse snatchings, unpaid parking tickets, and even overdue books in or near OWS.  So what?  Any big crowd attracts predators.  Have you ever been to a big event held in the evening?  There are uniformed and plainclothes cops everywhere.  But at OWS camps, the uniformed cops weren't present - at least not inside - so the predators had greater freedom.

You need to get out of your gated community more, Guido.  Out in the real world, only the authoritarians still see cops as Officer Friendly. 

Ed, I made no mention of the watered down crimes you pointed out. I REALLY meant rapes and assaults. Those violent acts are not some consequence of big crowds, otherwise we would have seen many more at the larger tea parties. We didn't.

I'm sorry, but I am not going to get all worked up over how OWS gets treated by the police, especially since the video evidence we get only gives us one side of the story. Do yourself a favor, and you too Patric since you are completely clueless when it comes to what amounts to excessive force, do a little research on what the standard for such is. Start with Graham v. Conner.

[guido911]

Finally, the source of rapes at OWS explained (language):

[Gaspar]

Ah yes. . .Spring is in the air, and the Occupy festivities are back in full swing.  Cities all over the country are enjoying a new bloom of protest.  The protesters are invigorated and well rested, and they have new and exciting things planned for us.



The hosting cities are also more prepared for the devastation left by the protests.  In New York, they have eliminated structures from the park to cut down on the criminal activity, assaults and rapes.



More porta-johns have been installed, and city health organizations will be supplying sharps containers.


The police have had an opportunity to stock up on badly needed supplies like tear-gas and riot shields.


The narrative, message, and demands have all been retooled and sharpened. 




I can't wait to tune in.

[guido911]

Stop posting pics of the fringe please. 

[Gaspar]

Teatown in 3. . .2 . . .1

[Teatownclown]

What ever happen to the Tea Parties? Have the baggers figured out they were pawns in the GOP game? Or has the GOP stopped funding the extreme righties knowing that the political investment in 2010 came around and bit them in the a$$?