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Started by RecycleMichael, October 11, 2011, 08:27:54 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: nathanm on October 27, 2011, 07:08:14 PM
I think that long term investment holdings should continue to be taxed at a lower rate than short term holdings, which should continue to be taxed as regular income, so yeah, I think the general system is ok. The thing I find most annoying on that front is the necessity of keeping track of documentation of cost basis, such that you only get taxed on gains, but I don't really see a way around that as long as investment income is taxed at all, and quite honestly, I think that would be utterly ridiculous.


If you are gonna give a break for something proven to NOT work, then let's redefine long term and short term.  Long term IS not a year and a day.  Long term is at least 5 and probably should be 8 to 10 years.  That way money actually has the opportunity to possibly move around enough to make jobs/economic activity.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on October 28, 2011, 10:14:47 AM
That's a lot like President Obama's new 90-90-90 plan.

Miss your ritalin today??

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Townsend

Looks like it's time for the dealer to change hands.

(and Romney moves into the lead)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20127907-503544/herman-cain-i-never-sexually-harassed-anyone/?tag=cbsContent;cbsCarousel

QuoteHerman Cain: I "never sexually harassed anyone"

Looks like this one's got legs.

RecycleMichael

"I was falsely accused while I was at the National Restaurant Association, and I say falsely, because it turned out, after the investigation, to be baseless."   -  Herman Cain

Cain then said he was unaware of any settlement payments to the two women.


Who among us really believes the second line?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Townsend

Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 31, 2011, 11:22:53 AM
"I was falsely accused while I was at the National Restaurant Association, and I say falsely, because it turned out, after the investigation, to be baseless."   -  Herman Cain

Cain then said he was unaware of any settlement payments to the two women.


Who among us really believes the second line?

You mean how instead of denying it he denies knowledge of it?

Yeah, it's bullpucky.

we vs us

I think this is where everyone in the Tea Party finds out just how insubstantial a candidate Herman Cain really is.  Similarly, this is where everyone in the Cain campaign finds out just how insubstantial the Tea Party's support for Herman Cain really is.  The whole campaign may not crumble at this point, but I don't see how 1) the media doesn't run this into the ground and 2) how the Tea Partiers don't slowly start to bleed away from him and back to Perry (or Bachmann, or Newt, or Santorum, etc) if he's discovered to be tainted goods.

Unrelatedly, there's this:

http://www.jsonline.mobi/watchdog/noquarter/state-firms-cash-to-herman-cain-may-breach-federal-campaign-tax-laws-132898423.html?ua=android&dc=smart&c=y

wherein some principles in Cain's campaign were funding him in all sorts of hinky and probably illegal ways prior to his establishment of a candidate. 

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Townsend on October 31, 2011, 11:27:09 AM
You mean how instead of denying it he denies knowledge of it?

Yeah, it's bullpucky.

He said;

Cain said that if more allegations surface, it will be because people "simply make them up." He said "the only other allegations will be trumped up allegations."
"There is nothing else," he said.

So what he said was the two allegations were the real allegations, and his minions paid it off if anyone did - and without his knowledge.  Since these were the only two, then other allegations are trumped up.

We need him for President! 

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

I figured it was only a matter of time before he got "Clarenced".  Politico is releasing few substantial details and I don't think there's any meat to the allegations.  The only thing we seem to know is there were some allegations that he made a couple of women "feel uncomfortable".  No groping, no overt sexual overtones.  At least from what I managed to hear on the drive in from OKC this morning.  I suspect this came from either the Perry or Romney campaigns and I predict this blows over in a matter of days.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

carltonplace

Quote from: Conan71 on October 31, 2011, 11:48:11 AM
I figured it was only a matter of time before he got "Clarenced".  Politico is releasing few substantial details and I don't think there's any meat to the allegations.  The only thing we seem to know is there were some allegations that he made a couple of women "feel uncomfortable".  No groping, no overt sexual overtones.  At least from what I managed to hear on the drive in from OKC this morning.  I suspect this came from either the Perry or Romney campaigns and I predict this blows over in a matter of days.



How dare these victims turn Cain into a victim..wait.

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on October 31, 2011, 11:48:11 AM
I figured it was only a matter of time before he got "Clarenced".  Politico is releasing few substantial details and I don't think there's any meat to the allegations.  The only thing we seem to know is there were some allegations that he made a couple of women "feel uncomfortable".  No groping, no overt sexual overtones.  At least from what I managed to hear on the drive in from OKC this morning.  I suspect this came from either the Perry or Romney campaigns and I predict this blows over in a matter of days.



He is being "welcomed into the club."   Should get his letter and instructions on the secret hand-shake from brothers Bill and Clarence soon.



The more that has come out about this, the funnier it's getting. I'm glad I work in an office where I can complement my female co-workers when they look nice, without fearing legal action.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on October 31, 2011, 12:33:59 PM
I'm glad I work in an office where I can complement my female co-workers when they look nice, without fearing legal action.

Never take that for granted.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on October 31, 2011, 12:33:59 PM

The more that has come out about this, the funnier it's getting. I'm glad I work in an office where I can complement my female co-workers when they look nice, without fearing legal action.

Thin ice, dude!  Be afraid - be very afraid!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

swake

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 31, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
He said;

Cain said that if more allegations surface, it will be because people "simply make them up." He said "the only other allegations will be trumped up allegations."
"There is nothing else," he said.

So what he said was the two allegations were the real allegations, and his minions paid it off if anyone did - and without his knowledge.  Since these were the only two, then other allegations are trumped up.

We need him for President! 



Shouldn't his talking about the charges in public ( and denying them) void the two victims' NDAs? That would make things really interesting.

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

Quote from: swake on October 31, 2011, 01:12:35 PM
Shouldn't his talking about the charges in public ( and denying them) void the two victims' NDAs? That would make things really interesting.

I think he needs to have the NRA/NRF wave the NDAs.  It's going to happen eventually, because some lefty news org, or one of his opponents is going to "make them an offer."

We need to be able to measure the silliness of the allegations.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.