The Robin Hood Tax?

[AquaMan]

I fail to see the hardship in a little responsibility.  These people would need some sort of ID to register for Social Security, Medicaid, or welfare, or to even cash a check.

Aside from that, do you want people who are not qualified to vote like non-citizens or under-aged kids?

Conan, over 650,000 people across the south don't have DL's. Mostly students and the elderly. They rely on cash, barter, churches and family to get by. Do you think the government ought to force them to get an ID, a specific ID in the form of a DL, a Visa or a specific photo ID? That seems too big brother for me. BTW, SS and Welfare rely on birth certificates for identification.

Speaking of hardship, is it too much to ask that those same governments simply recognize existing voter registration cards and other means of identification besides DL's? Somehow, those governments seem to collect water bills, real estate taxes, trash fees etc. without ever having to see one of those specific ID's.

Like I said, I have no problem with voters needing some sort of ID even if it is just facial recognition by the local registrar.  The hardships created by these new laws are greater than the risk of potential voter fraud. This latest poll barrier is not about limiting the amount of cheating voters. Its about surreptitiously raising the bar on who can vote.

[Teatownclown]

I fail to see the hardship in a little responsibility.  These people would need some sort of ID to register for Social Security, Medicaid, or welfare, or to even cash a check.

Aside from that, do you want people who are not qualified to vote like non-citizens or under-aged kids?

FAIL....miserably. It helps your causes to cut the poor and the down and out from your competitors support. What was wrong with the way we structured our voting democracy for the past century? Does the sudden need for an id result from a sudden and new fear of voter fraud? Check those ballot boxes and chads....

+1 Aquaman!

[Conan71]

Conan, over 650,000 people across the south don't have DL's. Mostly students and the elderly. They rely on cash, barter, churches and family to get by. Do you think the government ought to force them to get an ID, a specific ID in the form of a DL, a Visa or a specific photo ID? That seems too big brother for me. BTW, SS and Welfare rely on birth certificates for identification.

Speaking of hardship, is it too much to ask that those same governments simply recognize existing voter registration cards and other means of identification besides DL's? Somehow, those governments seem to collect water bills, real estate taxes, trash fees etc. without ever having to see one of those specific ID's.

Like I said, I have no problem with voters needing some sort of ID even if it is just facial recognition by the local registrar.  The hardships created by these new laws are greater than the risk of potential voter fraud. This latest poll barrier is not about limiting the amount of cheating voters. Its about surreptitiously raising the bar on who can vote.

If the government is going to force them to use a photo ID to vote, then the ID process should be free, I don't have a problem with that.  I simply don't see it as any more a hardship to go down to the DMV to get an ID than it is to go to the polls.

[Teatownclown]

If the government is going to force them to use a photo ID to vote, then the ID process should be free, I don't have a problem with that.  I simply don't see it as any more a hardship to go down to the DMV to get an ID than it is to go to the polls.

That's because you are not old, poor, or in poor health. Again, what was wrong with our voting democracy all these years?

[Conan71]

That's because you are not old, poor, or in poor health. Again, what was wrong with our voting democracy all these years?

Then it would be just as difficult for them to go vote, yes?.

With charges of voter fraud coming from both parties in virtually every major election nowadaze, I think it's become more essential for people to show an ID.  Our voting democracy is changing...

[guido911]

That's because you are not old, poor, or in poor health. Again, what was wrong with our voting democracy all these years?

How many threads are out about voter id? The Supremes have settled it. Move on.

[Teatownclown]

How many threads are out about voter id? The Supremes have settled it. Move on.

You got the Supreme majority in your corner. That doesn't make it right....right wing but not right.

This too can be changed along with the way Congress is bought off despite Clarence Thomass and his ilk.

[Teatownclown]

Then it would be just as difficult for them to go vote, yes?.

With charges of voter fraud coming from both parties in virtually every major election nowadaze, I think it's become more essential for people to show an ID.  Our voting democracy is changing...

In what way? You Jim Crowe lovers know what you're after here.

[guido911]

You got the Supreme majority in your corner. That doesn't make it right....right wing but not right.

This too can be changed along with the way Congress is bought off despite Clarence Thomas and his ilk.

Who knew Justice Stevens, one of the six that voted in the majority, was a right winger? Maybe it was the three left wingers that got it WRONG. Do you even try to think before you toss up these softballs?

[guido911]

In what way? You Jim Crowe lovers know what you're after here.

How did it go from the "old, poor, or in poor health" as your pitiful perceived reason why voter ID sucks to Jim Crow? Man, I guess now everyone is getting bent over by the onerous task of obtaining an ID.

[nathanm]

With charges of voter fraud coming from both parties in virtually every major election nowadaze, I think it's become more essential for people to show an ID.  Our voting democracy is changing...

There have always been charges of fraud after every election. The allegations are almost never found to be true.

If you're concerned about the sanctity of the vote, you'd be more effective in outlawing electronic voting machines that do more than print out a ballot equivalent to the paper one. They've all been repeatedly proven insecure, despite the protestations of their manufacturers.