I Don't Get It I Guess

[Ed W]

What the hell is that all about?

We've worked tons of overtime this year.  Our current manager wants turn around times of 2 weeks or less.  The idea is to repair so-called black boxes more quickly, thereby reducing the number of spares needed in inventory.  I've probably worked 2 out of 3 Saturdays since the beginning of the year. 

To have some sort of weekend, I start work at 4AM on Saturday.  My weekday shift starts at 7AM.  I don't sleep well anyway, so getting up at 3AM isn't much of a stretch.

After writing that bit earlier, I did indeed fall asleep.  I was out for about an hour, then grabbed a camera and went out to the 'Harvest' Festival (can't call it Halloween for fear the fundies will engage in a long bout of pearl clutching) where I took some photos.  They're having a chili cook-off today, and if I ate as much as some of these folks, I'd probably be looking wistfully at a Portasan too:

[guido911]

Ed, with as hard as you work, I would think you wouldn't have the slightest bit of sympathy for people wanting everything for free.

[AquaMan]

G, you go looking for dooshbags, you'll find them. I think you take the extremes and assume they are the norm. The press kind of encourages that. My kid goes to BTW. He graduates this year and has done very well. But I have been on guard to make sure he doesn't get contaminated with the "we're special" mentality that I saw a few years ago when TPS changed the rules about leaving campus during lunch break. In case you aren't aware, high school kids had been leaving campus to race to the nearest food joints since I was in school. It created traffic problems, truancy problems and generally was a bad idea. So, TPS ended the practice.

The reason I remember was because one of the local news crews went over to BTW and interviewed a petulant, young, intelligent, girl who was whining about the change. She said, "But we're special here at BTW. We worked hard to get here and if we're doing well we shouldn't have to be punished for what other schools are doing. Its just not fair!" I didn't know whether to laugh or what. Our sons were on the track to go there but we didn't think of the school the same way.

Truth is she didn't represent the school, the administration of the school or even more than a handful of its students. I think there will be more demonstrations by different groups but in my opinion they are not based on logic, philosophy or religion. They are based on a gut feeling that things aren't fair and just. They see the world from a different perspective and they are not very good at determining just what is abuse of the system and what is a lack in their understanding of the system. To be fair I thought the TP'ers suffered the same problem but with better sponsorship and organization.

[Hoss]

G, you go looking for dooshbags, you'll find them. I think you take the extremes and assume they are the norm. The press kind of encourages that. My kid goes to BTW. He graduates this year and has done very well. But I have been on guard to make sure he doesn't get contaminated with the "we're special" mentality that I saw a few years ago when TPS changed the rules about leaving campus during lunch break. In case you aren't aware, high school kids had been leaving campus to race to the nearest food joints since I was in school. It created traffic problems, truancy problems and generally was a bad idea. So, TPS ended the practice.

The reason I remember was because one of the local news crews went over to BTW and interviewed a petulant, young, intelligent, girl who was whining about the change. She said, "But we're special here at BTW. We worked hard to get here and if we're doing well we shouldn't have to be punished for what other schools are doing. Its just not fair!" I didn't know whether to laugh or what. Our sons were on the track to go there but we didn't think of the school the same way.

Truth is she didn't represent the school, the administration of the school or even more than a handful of its students. I think there will be more demonstrations by different groups but in my opinion they are not based on logic, philosophy or religion. They are based on a gut feeling that things aren't fair and just. They see the world from a different perspective and they are not very good at determining just what is abuse of the system and what is a lack in their understanding of the system. To be fair I thought the TP'ers suffered the same problem but with better sponsorship and organization.

Aqua, I thought TPS ended open campuses when someone shot some EC students at the Wendy's (no longer there now) on 19th & Garnett back in the early 90s?  I seem to remember that happening right after I moved back from Texas (around the end of 93 or first of 94).

I remember that being a popular lunch spot for us, as well as Cardinal Coney.  Unless TPS reopened campuses after that again between back then and now.

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread, just curious about your noting that.

Back to our regularly scheduled topic.

[guido911]

G, you go looking for dooshbags, you'll find them. I think you take the extremes and assume they are the norm. The press kind of encourages that. My kid goes to BTW. He graduates this year and has done very well. But I have been on guard to make sure he doesn't get contaminated with the "we're special" mentality that I saw a few years ago when TPS changed the rules about leaving campus during lunch break. In case you aren't aware, high school kids had been leaving campus to race to the nearest food joints since I was in school. It created traffic problems, truancy problems and generally was a bad idea. So, TPS ended the practice.

The reason I remember was because one of the local news crews went over to BTW and interviewed a petulant, young, intelligent, girl who was whining about the change. She said, "But we're special here at BTW. We worked hard to get here and if we're doing well we shouldn't have to be punished for what other schools are doing. Its just not fair!" I didn't know whether to laugh or what. Our sons were on the track to go there but we didn't think of the school the same way.

Truth is she didn't represent the school, the administration of the school or even more than a handful of its students. I think there will be more demonstrations by different groups but in my opinion they are not based on logic, philosophy or religion. They are based on a gut feeling that things aren't fair and just. They see the world from a different perspective and they are not very good at determining just what is abuse of the system and what is a lack in their understanding of the system. To be fair I thought the TP'ers suffered the same problem but with better sponsorship and organization.

The thing is that it's not just a few dooshbags. This movement is littered with them. Antisemitism, racism, violence, drug abuse, felons hiding in their ranks, as well as storming into restaurants and banks yelling and screaming, crapping on cop cars and in doorways, going to the homes of CEOs, trashing public property, and on and on and on. I read today that a mother of four from Florida abandoned her family to hang out with OWS.

[dbacks fan]

Mother of the year nominee 

Hessler has spoken with her family -- husband Curtiss, 42; son Peyton, 17; and daughters Kennedy 15, Sullivan, 13, and Veda, 7 -- just three times since leaving them. "Friends are taking care of them," she said.

Not everyone has supported her decision. "My mother told me I was being very selfish," she admitted.

And her husband, a former Bank of America financial adviser who now works at a local Florida bank, is perplexed. "He says he's working for 'the Man,' and I'm fighting against him," she said.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/she_plans_to_stray_awhile_opuo0dDOjE39dfRDdUZ1sM

[AquaMan]

Aqua, I thought TPS ended open campuses when someone shot some EC students at the Wendy's (no longer there now) on 19th & Garnett back in the early 90s?  I seem to remember that happening right after I moved back from Texas (around the end of 93 or first of 94).

I remember that being a popular lunch spot for us, as well as Cardinal Coney.  Unless TPS reopened campuses after that again between back then and now.

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread, just curious about your noting that.

Back to our regularly scheduled topic.

I vaguely remember the incident. There were numerous problems with students speeding from Edison down 41st over to Brookside as well. My first son graduated there in 2000 so it had to have been around 1996 when he entered because his was the first incoming class to be restricted to campus.

Guido, the only stories reported are the scandalous ones. I'm sure there are plenty of them. No one wants to hear about a quiet, well behaved group of demonstrators who are sober, keen of mind and wit, who show up at 8am and are in bed by 10pm. Doesn't sell ad space.

[dbacks fan]

I vaguely remember the incident. There were numerous problems with students speeding from Edison down 41st over to Brookside as well. My first son graduated there in 2000 so it had to have been around 1996 when he entered because his was the first incoming class to be restricted to campus.

The office I worked out of was just south of 21st on Garnett'

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-16/news/mn-23601_1_restaurant-employee

[AquaMan]

The office I worked out of was just south of 21st on Garnett'

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-16/news/mn-23601_1_restaurant-employee

I was busy with a 1 year old, a 11 yr old, a 14 yr old, the demise of an emotionally draining startup newspaper, and re-focussing to make a living. I'm afraid I wasn't really paying attention to a lot of stuff, even something as shocking as that. Pretty scary for parents to see what teenage hormones and guns can lead to eh?

[Hoss]

I was busy with a 1 year old, a 11 yr old, a 14 yr old, the demise of an emotionally draining startup newspaper, and re-focussing to make a living. I'm afraid I wasn't really paying attention to a lot of stuff, even something as shocking as that. Pretty scary for parents to see what teenage hormones and guns can lead to eh?

And to this day I still drive by that place (it's no longer a Wendy's by the way) and think of that shooting.  Sad that I relate it to that, and not the times I went there in my junior or senior year for lunch.

[guido911]

Why is she unemployed? Perhaps because her clientele doesn't want this very special look.

[Ed W]

As the late Clara Peller famously asked, "Where's the beef?"  There's been no criticism of the OWS central tenet - that Wall Street should be held accountable for crashing our financial system and the resulting nationwide havoc.  I've seen lots of snide pokes at individuals, but not much about the message. 

[Hoss]

As the late Clara Peller famously asked, "Where's the beef?"  There's been no criticism of the OWS central tenet - that Wall Street should be held accountable for crashing our financial system and the resulting nationwide havoc.  I've seen lots of snide pokes at individuals, but not much about the message. 

And you won't Ed.  Republicans/TPers as a generality don't think much of those who don't fit the 'moral fabric' they mold themselves to.  How about some of the screeching by those members in here about the sexual orientation of Rachel Maddow..who, by the way is Rhodes Scholar.

Don't hear them much screeching, however, about Vice President Cheney's daughter (Mary).

[dbacks fan]

Why is she unemployed? Perhaps because her clientele doesn't want this very special look.

She's on the wrong coast with that look. 

[nathanm]

Why is she unemployed? Perhaps because her clientele doesn't want this very special look.

When I was once dragged to Ihloff, I saw much weirder looking people working there.