OU/OSU

[DolfanBob]

I saw a thread drift on another topic so I figured I would just start this one and see where we go with it.
I have been a Sooner fan since about the age of ten. No one in my family ever went to OU and not really sure what started me being such a die hard fan. 1971 was between the Chuck Fairbanks and Barry Switzer years so them being televised on one of the four stations we had to choose from probably made it pretty easy to decide. Having pride in your school or favorite team is not just when they are winning. I lived through the Gibbs and Blake years still wearing my Crimson and Cream. I just want to know if all this Black and burnt Orange will still be seen as much when they return to a 5 and 7 team ? No I do not like OSU and my reason is because of the upsets they handed OU and kept us from a National Championship. So this year we get to return the favor. I have a Nephew who graduated from OSU and his Sister will graduate from there next year. My Son has recieved several post cards wanting him to go there. If he wants to that would be fantastic. I have no problem with him going there but I wouldnt change my allegiance to OU because of it. Hell I'm a Dolphins fan born and raised here. That also started when I was ten. So there are many different reasons that some people are fans of any one team. We are not all trailer trash who didnt go to the school. And I'm sure plenty of OSU students have delivered pizzas in this wonderful economy we are living in.

[Conan71]

I delivered pizzas in Stillwater.  Let me tell you, that can be a really fun gig in a college town especially the later it gets at night.  I went to school over in Stillwater as did my s/o.  My parents are OU grads and I've got two daughters at OU.  I've got healthy respect for both schools and I cheer for OU except when they play OSU. 

One thing I've observed and had repeated to me many times is that there is a certain classless element to Sooner fans (hence my calling them "Gooners") and it's certainly not all of them, but even a small minority of obnoxious fans will stick in someone's mind.  I've never really seen taunting or name-calling out of OSU fans, though not to say with certainty it's never happened.

I graduated from Cascia Hall and we had a horrible reputation back in the '70's and '80's particularly for our basketball fans.  We were known as the verbal abuse squad.  Chants like "We've got money yes we do, we've got money, how about you?!" usually were not well received in places like Mannford or Coweta.  Of course most of us, er uh ahem those people on the VAS, were half baked or had a pretty good beer buzz going.

[Townsend]

Texas Football Fan Nearly Castrated in Bar Fight in Oklahoma Bar


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296466,00.html

According to police, 32-year-old Texas fan Brian Christopher Thomas walked into Henry Hudson's Pub on June 17 wearing a Longhorns T-shirt and quickly became the focus of football "trash talk" from another regular, 53-year-old Oklahoma fan Allen Michael Beckett.

Thomas told police that when he decided to leave and went to the bar to pay his tab, Beckett grabbed him in the crotch, pulled him to the ground and wouldn't let go, even as bar patrons tried to break it up. When the two men were separated, Thomas looked down and realized the extent of his injuries.

"He could see both of his testicles hanging on the outside of his body," said Thomas' attorney, Carl Hughes. "He was wearing a pair of white shorts, which made it that much worse."

It took more than 60 stitches to close the wound, and police interviewed Thomas at a nearby hospital emergency room.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I've got healthy respect for both schools and I cheer for OU except when they play OSU. 

That is the whole point.  The vast majority of people I have known who are OSU fans support and are fans of OU until they play.  And the reverse is that the vast majority of OU fans denigrate and deride OSU pretty much all the time.  Not sure exactly where that phenomenon starts, but Dolfan just showed it to us - very common.

[Hoss]

That is the whole point.  The vast majority of people I have known who are OSU fans support and are fans of OU until they play.  And the reverse is that the vast majority of OU fans denigrate and deride OSU pretty much all the time.  Not sure exactly where that phenomenon starts, but Dolfan just showed it to us - very common.

You must be running in the wrong circles then, because nearly every Poke fan I know works it this way:

If their team sucks that year (and they have more than they haven't), then even if they go 1-10, they consider their season a success if that 1 win is against the Sooners.

Myself?  I like the Cowboys.  I root for them.  Just not when they play the Sooners.

Sooners have more tradition in winning and just plain more tradition period.  OSU is getting better on the back of T. Boone...nothing wrong with that either, I'm just stating a pretty obvious fact.

[RecycleMichael]

I usually cheer for OU more than OSU, but my only reason is that it is like one third easier to spell.

[Teatownclown]

I graduated from Cascia Hall and we had a horrible reputation back in the '70's and '80's particularly for our basketball fans.  We were known as the verbal abuse squad.  Chants like "We've got money yes we do, we've got money, how about you?!" usually were not well received in places like Mannford or Coweta.  Of course most of us, er uh ahem those people on the VAS, were half baked or had a pretty good beer buzz going.

Well, this sez it all..... your indoctrination into class warfare and right wing politics. Your roots are showing. Are you dressing up as a drunk priest tonight?

[heironymouspasparagus]

You must be running in the wrong circles then, because nearly every Poke fan I know works it this way:

If their team sucks that year (and they have more than they haven't), then even if they go 1-10, they consider their season a success if that 1 win is against the Sooners.

Myself?  I like the Cowboys.  I root for them.  Just not when they play the Sooners.

Sooners have more tradition in winning and just plain more tradition period.  OSU is getting better on the back of T. Boone...nothing wrong with that either, I'm just stating a pretty obvious fact.

Absolutely - that's why I said until they play (OU and OSU), then it is bedlam rivalry.  But when it comes to cheering on OU when they are playing anyone else, most are rooting for them as am I.

Sooners have always been the football darlings of Oklahoma.  That's just reality.  I still like orange.  I even like red when it's not playing orange.

[Conan71]

Well, this sez it all..... your indoctrination into class warfare and right wing politics. Your roots are showing. Are you dressing up as a drunk priest tonight?

Absolutely!  I'll even let little boys sit on my lap for confession.

[GG]

I'm an unapologetic partisan.   I have two favorite teams, OSU and whoever is playing ou.

[jacobi]

    Since I'm the one that started the stupid thread drift (really shouldn't have been online while I had a fever), I'll weight in.  MY point is that I think that the reason why there do tend to be more non-university affiliated people who are fans of OU is because OU is so successful. This in no way means that all non-academically affiliated OU fans are WT.  But OU does seem to draw a large number of non-university affiliated, Larry-the-Cable-Guy-look-alike-contest-runners-up.
    I wonder what they are a fan of really.  It's not the school that is really important otherwise they would support all of the OU sports.  I doubt the kid yelling at me in Sand Springs is ever going to show up for an academic bowl competition.  So, not OU as a school.  It's not the sport itself because fans don't seem to watch just any game that's on.  My guess is that they love the story.  Notice what Dolfandan listed as the way he started following OU: the characters. Switzer, Fairbanks.  I know the feeling of loving a teams narrative.  My St Louis Cardinals told a pretty good narrative this year.  There is a difference though.  The red birds are pro and NCAA football teams pretend they aren't pro.
    This leads me to a question.  Why college?  College sports don't exist in other countries because, in other countries, they fully fund their universities and don't expect them to get a job (i.e. hocking football shirts, tickets and TV rights).  I can hear the sed contra argument already: "But Jacob, The great god Pickins donated that money so that we might build him a temple and that we never know want again.  He gave us money to make money on football! Oh glory be!"  I have a better idea, if T. Boone donated the money, not to build a giant thing with his name on it, but to honestly help the University be better funded, then we should have pocketed the money and opened up a department of pornography.  The overhead is low and the payoff is HUGE!  If the goal is to fund the university it shouldn't matter where the money comes from or how it's made.  Ok, enough reductio ad absurdum. 

    I think that all NCAA sports should be banned and all college sports be intramural.  We would be much better served as a state if the teams were spun off and turned pro.  On top of all of this, I really don't like football.  It's boring.  Which is why it's weird I brought up the thread drift to begin with.  And yes in case anyone is wondering, I was born in Oklahoma. 

You may all now begin bagging on me and my deeply anti-okie way of thinking. 

[jacobi]

My appologies to DolfanBob.  Forgive me for confusing you with Marino by calling you dan.

[DolfanBob]

My appologies to DolfanBob.  Forgive me for confusing you with Marino by calling you dan.

Hey thanks no problem. And you make some good points. That's why I started this topic. I just want to add that I am not the kind of fan that burn the other teams flag, curse at the band as they walk to the field or spit on the opposing team fans in the stand (Florida State) To me it's just a game I played through school and I do love the game. I know they are just students and even they don't take it as seriously as the people I just described. I have a band wagon jumping relative who will become a fan of anyone winning and then put away the team colors as soon as the team goes back to losing. And right now I am seeing a awful lot of Black and Orange around town and wonder if it really is team support, or just another band wagon going by.

[Townsend]

And right now I am seeing a awful lot of Black and Orange around town and wonder if it really is team support, or just another band wagon going by.

Halloween?

[DolfanBob]

Halloween?

That's a thought. And it is kinda scary.