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The end of Herman Cain's campaign

Started by RecycleMichael, November 03, 2011, 09:07:17 AM

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Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 01:59:53 PM
Damn!  I'm gonna miss. . .


Curious.  Do you think Ms. Buyalick and Dr. Zuckerman were paid directly by the DNC or do you suppose the bill was sent by Ms. Allred's office?  Their scripted readings for the media were truly pathetic. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

No Conan,

They were sold a load of crap by the DNC like everyone else.

"If you do this, you will make a bundle. . ."
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 02:22:35 PM
No Conan,

They were sold a load of crap by the DNC like everyone else.

"If you do this, you will make a bundle. . ."

Poor thing, doesn't even look like she will have the staying power of Donna Rice or Jessica Hahn.  I guess her 15 minutes is officially over.  Amazing how the unmasked anonymous accuser has backed off since it was pointed out she's a chronic complainer and the "other 4" were not willing to join her on stage for a "confrontation".

You know, I think I will go head and send even more money today.  I'm sure Herman could use it.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

#213
Quote from: Conan71 on November 17, 2011, 01:33:01 PM
It appears Herman's campaign is going just fine and Gropegate is dissipating like a fart in the wind.

Really? Here is the new Rassmussan Poll...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote.

Eighty-six percent (86%) of Iowa caucus-goers have followed stories of the sexual harassment allegations leveled against Cain. Forty-two percent (42%) believe the allegations are at least somewhat likely to be both serious and true, and 41% give Cain's campaign good or excellent marks for its response to the allegations. Twenty-one percent (21%) say the Cain campaign did a poor job handling the allegations. These findings are similar to those found among Republicans nationwide.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Gaspar

#214
Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 17, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
Really? Here is the new Rassmussan Poll...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote.

Eighty-six percent (86%) of Iowa caucus-goers have followed stories of the sexual harassment allegations leveled against Cain. Forty-two percent (42%) believe the allegations are at least somewhat likely to be both serious and true, and 41% give Cain's campaign good or excellent marks for its response to the allegations. Twenty-one percent (21%) say the Cain campaign did a poor job handling the allegations. These findings are similar to those found among Republicans nationwide.

Come on!  Rasmussen is Right-Wing crap!  
Except when he's making a point I agree with!

Last week Rasmussen showed President Obama losing the 2012 election to this pair of dirty socks by a margin of 4%.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 17, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
Really? Here is the new Rassmussan Poll...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote.

Eighty-six percent (86%) of Iowa caucus-goers have followed stories of the sexual harassment allegations leveled against Cain. Forty-two percent (42%) believe the allegations are at least somewhat likely to be both serious and true, and 41% give Cain's campaign good or excellent marks for its response to the allegations. Twenty-one percent (21%) say the Cain campaign did a poor job handling the allegations. These findings are similar to those found among Republicans nationwide.

Considering the seriousness of the claims, those are pretty good numbers and they are also plagued by poll lag.  Wait a couple or three weeks and no more bimbos alleged victims are trotted out, I suspect you will see him gain popularity.  There's still six weeks to go to Iowa, his fund-raising is going quite well, and Iowa doesn't make or break a campaign though it can present an opportunity to re-tool a campaign if the candidate did not resonate well there.  Consider that Tom Harkin (Okay so he's an Iowan) had something like 70% in 1992 and Clinton was less than 5%, Gephardt won in '88 and Dukakis finished 3rd on the Dem side.

Of great interest on the GOP side: Huckabee was an upset winner in '08 with 34% and McCain finished third with 13% in Iowa but went on to win the nomination.  Close numbers to the current crop.

Bob Dull and Bush Sr. had a similar spread in the '88 caucus with Bush finishing third behind Dull and Pat Robertson.

In other words there's historical precedence for this sort of spread from first to third (or worse) in Iowa and have the candidate who is trailing ending up being the nominee and eventual president.

Keep in mind also there are many states with open primaries.  Democrats can vote for a candidate they think cannot unseat Obama and I suspect a lot of them will lean toward Cain since he's an outsider or think they can re-fan the flames of doubt by doing another perp walk of harassment accusers.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

You would think the libs would want Cain to be the front-runner.  Can you imagine what would happen to poor President Obama if he had to face Newt in a debate?

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 03:08:12 PM
You would think the libs would want Cain to be the front-runner.  Can you imagine what would happen to poor President Obama if he had to face Newt in a debate?



Newt?  Really?  He can't even explain the money from Freddy and sound sincere.

I agree though.  Cain is a great candidate for Obama.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 03:08:12 PM
You would think the libs would want Cain to be the front-runner.  Can you imagine what would happen to poor President Obama if he had to face Newt in a debate?



"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

we vs us

Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 01:59:53 PM
Damn!  I'm gonna miss. . .


This is, um, not Bialek.  This is Jennifer Coolidge, an actress who was in Best In Show, Legally Blonde, and other such trifles. 

Not Herman Cain's accuser.  Just so we have that straight. 

Townsend

Quote from: we vs us on November 17, 2011, 03:37:59 PM
This is, um, not Bialek.  This is Jennifer Coolidge, an actress who was in Best In Show, Legally Blonde, and other such trifles. 

Not Herman Cain's accuser.  Just so we have that straight. 

He knows.  She'll always be Stifler's mom.

we vs us

Quote from: Townsend on November 17, 2011, 03:40:22 PM
He knows.  She'll always be Stifler's mom.

Ohhhh yeah, forgot about that one, too.

Townsend

Per CBS hotsheet tweet:

QuoteA U.S. government official tells CBS News Republican Presidential candidate Herman Cain is getting Secret Service protection.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on November 17, 2011, 05:35:56 PM
Per CBS hotsheet tweet:


I think that means he's considered a serious candidate.  In spite of RM's previous post.  Third place in Iowa isn't a kiss of death.  We've had some nominees and general election winners who finished third in Iowa.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Ed W

Another woman came forward saying that she and Herman Cain had a 13 year affair that ended just before he became a presidential candidate.  Cain, of course, denied it. He never met the woman.  Or he met her once or twice and tried to help her out financially.  So while he knew her, he didn't "know" her.  Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. 

By tomorrow the story will be that while helping her financially, he took her to some hotels for private instruction on best financial practices, but those meetings didn't involve copious amounts of hot fudge, feather dusters, or party games like Naked Twister.   
Ed

May you live in interesting times.