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The end of Herman Cain's campaign

Started by RecycleMichael, November 03, 2011, 09:07:17 AM

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Townsend

Daily Beast FB:

QuoteHerman Cain's not going anywhere. The GOP candidate told a crowd today, "The American people are going to raise some Cain in 2012!"

Soooo, there's that.

Conan71

Aside from the bimbo outbreaks, I think his turn in the limelight made him look more and more like Rick Perry.

Honestly, the fidelity thing isn't much of an issue for me.  Show me a powerful individual who claims they have never cheated someone or cheated  on someone and I'll show you a liar.  It seems to go hand-in-hand.  I'm sure there are exceptions but it seems the drive for success seems to be tied to other, ahem, drives as well.  I think the only reason there's not been any sex scandals involving Romney so far is he had the foresight to pay them all off well before he announced his 2008 campaign.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on November 30, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
Aside from the bimbo outbreaks, I think his turn in the limelight made him look more and more like Rick Perry.

Honestly, the fidelity thing isn't much of an issue for me.  Show me a powerful individual who claims they have never cheated someone or cheated  on someone and I'll show you a liar.  It seems to go hand-in-hand.  I'm sure there are exceptions but it seems the drive for success seems to be tied to other, ahem, drives as well.  I think the only reason there's not been any sex scandals involving Romney so far is he had the foresight to pay them all off well before he announced his 2008 campaign.

Seriously? You think these guys love themselves? You betcha...

But Conan, I bet you were out there blowing Newt as he led the charge on ole Big Disappointment Bill Cliton....

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on November 30, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
Show me a powerful individual who claims they have never cheated someone or cheated  on someone and I'll show you a liar.

I don't give a rat's donkey if a politician cheats on his wife. That's their personal life. I do have a problem when there are several outstanding allegations of harassment. Maybe in a particularly egregious case like John Edwards stepping out on his wife while she had cancer I can raise a bit of ire, but something like that is more morally suspect than garden variety strange seeking.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

May need to get off the Cain train.  It goes in and out of too many tunnels!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Gas, that is funny. Such skills with subtle imagery.

The rest of you? Seriously. Such cynicism at such a young age.  I don't see the issue the same way. I supported Edwards and was crushed when he was exposed. My support of what he was saying blinded me to the obvious depth of his self admiration. I wasn't surprised by Gingrich or Cain though. Each of them seemed pretty ego driven, but I wasn't thrilled with their message so I could see them more clearly.

I don't mind a politician getting laid per se. Good for them. Celebrity brings out lots of good offers and good times. But these aren't football players. When you take on the mantle of important leadership you best have a serious, focused, mature attitude. And when you slip, its how you present yourself that matters. Prevaricating on subjects that your followers have personal experience with is usually not tolerated.

The guy from the Stewart show said it best. "I'm checking my records to see just how many men have taken 60 calls from a woman they've financially supported for 13 years....and never slept with. And, there appear to be none!"
onward...through the fog

Conan71

Quote from: AquaMan on December 01, 2011, 10:00:35 AM
Gas, that is funny. Such skills with subtle imagery.

The rest of you? Seriously. Such cynicism at such a young age.  I don't see the issue the same way. I supported Edwards and was crushed when he was exposed. My support of what he was saying blinded me to the obvious depth of his self admiration. I wasn't surprised by Gingrich or Cain though. Each of them seemed pretty ego driven, but I wasn't thrilled with their message so I could see them more clearly.

I don't mind a politician getting laid per se. Good for them. Celebrity brings out lots of good offers and good times. But these aren't football players. When you take on the mantle of important leadership you best have a serious, focused, mature attitude. And when you slip, its how you present yourself that matters. Prevaricating on subjects that your followers have personal experience with is usually not tolerated.

The guy from the Stewart show said it best. "I'm checking my records to see just how many men have taken 60 calls from a woman they've financially supported for 13 years....and never slept with. And, there appear to be none!"

They are all ego-driven.  Even the ones who got into politics for purely altruistic reasons eventually fall into the ego trap.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

AquaMan

Quote from: Conan71 on December 01, 2011, 10:04:23 AM
They are all ego-driven.  Even the ones who got into politics for purely altruistic reasons eventually fall into the ego trap.

True enough I guess. You have to have pretty good self esteem to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fame. Its the failure of the populace to put their actions in proper perspective that I am commenting on. I thought less of Clinton as a man when he screwed around. It raised commitment and discipline questions. He is not perfect, nor Cain or Gingrich. But by the time they reach their levels of operation they should have devised strategies to deal with them or left most of that stuff behind.

I wouldn't have held an affair 30 year ago against them. But the last 13 years? Or while your were leading Congress with a moral crusade? And you thought no one would notice or care? That is the immaturity of Hart.
onward...through the fog

we vs us

Quote from: AquaMan on December 01, 2011, 10:00:35 AM
Gas, that is funny. Such skills with subtle imagery.

The rest of you? Seriously. Such cynicism at such a young age.  I don't see the issue the same way. I supported Edwards and was crushed when he was exposed. My support of what he was saying blinded me to the obvious depth of his self admiration. I wasn't surprised by Gingrich or Cain though. Each of them seemed pretty ego driven, but I wasn't thrilled with their message so I could see them more clearly.

I don't mind a politician getting laid per se. Good for them. Celebrity brings out lots of good offers and good times. But these aren't football players. When you take on the mantle of important leadership you best have a serious, focused, mature attitude. And when you slip, its how you present yourself that matters. Prevaricating on subjects that your followers have personal experience with is usually not tolerated.

The guy from the Stewart show said it best. "I'm checking my records to see just how many men have taken 60 calls from a woman they've financially supported for 13 years....and never slept with. And, there appear to be none!"

Very well put. 

RecycleMichael

I got even odds on which happens first...Herman Cain withdraws from the race or snow hits the ground in Tulsa.

Place your bets.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on December 02, 2011, 07:22:20 PM
I got even odds on which happens first...Herman Cain withdraws from the race or snow hits the ground in Tulsa.

Place your bets.

Been hanging out with Kivisto again?  He's a degenerate gambler too.

Are we talking a case of Marshall's?  I say Cain is out of the race before the first snow. 

Only problem is, I keep getting emails for his appearance in OKC on Monday.  I was actually hoping they would give me a Godfather's pizza for appearing in a photo with him rather than me paying $250 for a photo with someone who won't even still be an official candidate then.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

patric

So after squeezing the last few donations out, he's throwing in the towel.
It seems his supporters couldn't tolerate someone who botched an extramarital affair, so their throwing their support at someone with a lot more experience (at extramarital affairs).
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on December 02, 2011, 07:56:15 PM
Been hanging out with Kivisto again?  He's a degenerate gambler too.

Are we talking a case of Marshall's?  I say Cain is out of the race before the first snow. 

Only problem is, I keep getting emails for his appearance in OKC on Monday.  I was actually hoping they would give me a Godfather's pizza for appearing in a photo with him rather than me paying $250 for a photo with someone who won't even still be an official candidate then.

Looks like RM wins...unless you're parsing 'withdraw' versus 'suspend'.

"Depends on what the meaning of the word is, is"....

guido911

Quote from: patric on December 03, 2011, 02:41:07 PM
So after squeezing the last few donations out, he's throwing in the towel.
It seems his supporters couldn't tolerate someone who botched an extramarital affair, so their throwing their support at someone with a lot more experience (at extramarital affairs).


Bill Clinton cannot run for office again.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

dbacks fan

Quote from: patric on December 03, 2011, 02:41:07 PM
So after squeezing the last few donations out, he's throwing in the towel.
It seems his supporters couldn't tolerate someone who botched an extramarital affair, so their throwing their support at someone with a lot more experience (at extramarital affairs).


CNN was reporting that they will start supporting nut case Bachmann.