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The end of Herman Cain's campaign

Started by RecycleMichael, November 03, 2011, 09:07:17 AM

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TulsaRufnex

Quote from: we vs us on November 10, 2011, 01:47:51 PM
That's not a tat.  That's a tramp stamp.

... I vote "Rand Stamp"

http://www.fullcontext.org/people/mayer.htm

QuoteQ: How were you introduced to the writings of Ayn Rand?

Mayer: I read Anthem for my 11th-grade English class and was profoundly moved by it. Then in a bookstore I discovered Rand's The Virtue of Selfishness and read all the essays while I was still in high school. Then, during the summer following my freshman year in college, while I was interning in Washington, D.C., I read The Fountainhead. It was an eventful summer—the summer of 1974—and I observed the downfall of Nixon's presidency by day, and read about Howard Roark at night. I followed up with Atlas Shrugged over winter break during my sophomore year. By spring of that year, I was a subscriber to The Ayn Rand Letter and began buying and reading all the other Rand books, both fiction and non-fiction. By that time, I'd also changed my major to history. Both the experience of being a Washington intern (I worked at the Library of Congress, where I got a good insider's view of what's wrong with the federal government) and reading Rand helped shape my interest in political philosophy; and at the University of Michigan at that time, the best courses in that subject weren't in the philosophy department but in the history department.

Yeah, real unbiased Ayn Rand dittohead.... d'oh.
"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
― Brendan Behan  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

heironymouspasparagus

Allegations for Billy Bob versus convictions.  Yeah, they're the same...

One of the complaints for Billy was the pardons he gave - which in reality were on a par with most Presidents, but notice how out of the 171 W gave, about 35 were for drug convictions - cocaine, marijuana, etc.  Had to get his buddies freed up for his big retirement party, I guess.
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 10, 2011, 09:01:53 AM
A TV reporter from his home town talks to another guy who says he put audio tape in a machine and his voice proves he is innocent. You some kinda gullible.

Voice Stress Analysis doesn't work over TV because there isnt the audio bandwidth to reproduce the vocal microtremors necessary.
And even if it did work, VSA, like polygraphy, only shows a stress response to a question.

Passing a "lie detector" is just a matter of who's paying for the test.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Conan71

Quote from: patric on November 10, 2011, 02:17:15 PM
Voice Stress Analysis doesn't work over TV because there isnt the audio bandwidth to reproduce the vocal microtremors necessary.
And even if it did work, VSA, like polygraphy, only shows a stress response to a question.

Passing a "lie detector" is just a matter of who's paying for the test.

TV makes the voice sound fat.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Excellent research by Ms. Coulter. 

Quote

David Axelrod's Pattern Of Sexual Misbehavior

By Ann Coulter
Herman Cain has spent his life living and working all over the country — Indiana, Georgia, Minnesota, Nebraska, Kansas, Washington, D.C. — but never in Chicago.

So it's curious that all the sexual harassment allegations against Cain emanate from Chicago: home of the Daley machine and Obama consigliere David Axelrod.

Suspicions had already fallen on Sheila O'Grady, who is close with David Axelrod and went straight from being former Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley's chief of staff to president of the Illinois Restaurant Association (IRA), as being the person who dug up Herman Cain's personnel records from the National Restaurant Association (NRA).

The Daley-controlled IRA works hand-in-glove with the NRA. And strangely enough, Cain's short, three-year tenure at the NRA is evidently the only period in his decades-long career during which he's alleged to have been a sexual predator.

After O'Grady's name surfaced in connection with the miraculous appearance of Cain's personnel files from the NRA, she issued a Clintonesque denial of any involvement in producing them — by vigorously denying that she knew Cain when he was at the NRA. (Duh.)

And now, after a week of conservative eye-rolling over unspecified, anonymous accusations against Cain, we've suddenly got very specific sexual assault allegations from an all-new accuser out of ... Chicago.

Herman Cain has never lived in Chicago. But you know who has? David Axelrod! And guess who lived in Axelrod's very building? Right again: Cain's latest accuser, Sharon Bialek.

Bialek's accusations were certainly specific. But they also demonstrated why anonymous accusations are worthless.

Within 24 hours of Bialek's press conference, friends and acquaintances of hers stepped forward to say that she's a "gold-digger," that she was constantly in financial trouble — having filed for personal bankruptcy twice — and, of course, that she had lived in Axelrod's apartment building at 505 North Lake Shore Drive, where, she admits, she knew the man The New York Times calls Obama's "hired muscle."

Throw in some federal tax evasion, and she's Obama's next Cabinet pick.

The reason all this is relevant is that both Axelrod and Daley have a history of smearing political opponents by digging up claims of sexual misconduct against them.

John Brooks, Chicago's former fire commissioner, filed a lawsuit against Daley six months ago claiming Daley threatened to smear him with sexual harassment accusations if Brooks didn't resign. He resigned — and the sexual harassment allegations were later found to be completely false.

Meanwhile, as extensively detailed in my book "Guilty: Liberal 'Victims' and Their Assault on America," the only reason Obama became a U.S. senator — allowing him to run for president — is that David Axelrod pulled sealed divorce records out of a hat, first, against Obama's Democratic primary opponent, and then against Obama's Republican opponent.

One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was way down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader.

But then The Chicago Tribune — where Axelrod used to work — began publishing claims that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings.

From then until Election Day, Hull was embroiled in fighting the allegation that he was a "wife beater." He and his ex-wife eventually agreed to release their sealed divorce records. His first ex-wife, daughters and nanny defended him at a press conference, swearing he was never violent. During a Democratic debate, Hull was forced to explain that his wife kicked him and he had merely kicked her back.

Hull's substantial lead just a month before the primary collapsed with the nonstop media attention to his divorce records. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote.

Luckily for Axelrod, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced.

The Republican nominee was Jack Ryan, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard law and business schools, who had left his lucrative partnership at Goldman Sachs to teach at an inner-city school on the South Side of Chicago.

But in a child custody dispute some years earlier, Ryan's ex-wife, Hollywood sex kitten Jeri Lynn Ryan, had alleged that, while the couple was married, Jack had taken her to swingers clubs in Paris and New York.

Jack Ryan adamantly denied the allegations. In the interest of protecting their son, he also requested that the records be put permanently under seal.

Axelrod's courthouse moles obtained the "sealed" records and, in no time, they were in the hands of every political operative in Chicago. Knowing perfectly well what was in the records, Chicago Tribune attorneys flew to California and requested that the court officially "unseal" them — over the objections of both Jack and Jeri Ryan.

Your honor, who knows what could be in these records!

A California judge ordered them unsealed, which allowed newspapers to publish the salacious allegations, and four days later, Ryan dropped out of the race under pressure from idiot Republicans (who should be tracked down and shot).

With a last-minute replacement of Alan Keyes as Obama's Republican opponent, Obama was able to set an all-time record in an Illinois Senate election, winning with a 43 percent margin.

And that's how Obama became a senator four years after losing a congressional race to Bobby Rush. (In a disastrous turn of events, Rush was not divorced.)

Axelrod destroyed the only two men who stood between Obama and the Senate with illicitly obtained, lurid allegations from their pasts.

In 2007, long after Obama was safely ensconced in the U.S. Senate, The New York Times reported: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece (on Hull's sealed divorce records) later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story."

Some had suggested, the Times article continued, that Axelrod had "an even more significant role — that he leaked the initial story."

This time, Obama's little helpers have not only thrown a bomb into the Republican primary, but are hoping to destroy the man who deprives the Democrats of their only argument in 2012: If you oppose Obama, you must be a racist.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend


Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on November 10, 2011, 03:22:39 PM
Ha...Coulter.

That's fine.  Ignore dirty Chi-town smear politics at your own peril.  Still a very well thought out and researched piece.  Does it concern you in the least that Axlerod has gone so far as to pilfer sealed court documents on a previous Obama opponent?  If you or I pulled that crap, we'd be sitting in prison right now.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

we vs us

Quote from: Conan71 on November 10, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
That's fine.  Ignore dirty Chi-town smear politics at your own peril.  Still a very well thought out and researched piece.  Does it concern you in the least that Axlerod has gone so far as to pilfer sealed court documents on a previous Obama opponent?  If you or I pulled that crap, we'd be sitting in prison right now.

Does it bother you that you're treating Ann Coulter as a primary source? 

heironymouspasparagus

Conan,
You seem to be doing more than usual of this lately.  I am concerned.  Have you had a doctor check up lately?  Maybe an electrolyte imbalance?


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on November 10, 2011, 12:42:10 PM
So your line is that Democrats are not corrupt or less corrupt than Republicans?  That's rich...

No, I said that corrupt Democrats resign or are voted out. Corrupt Republicans keep getting elected unless they're actually imprisoned.

dbacks: Ron Paul has some kooky ideas, but he has a consistent worldview that he doesn't change at a whim. His points are arrived at by way of logic applied to the way he sees the world. His policy positions are not up for bid. He does not change his views to win a primary. As a politician, he's probably the best we could ask for. Unfortunately, his world view does not necessarily align with the facts as presently known. It's not batsh*tinsanity, though.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on November 10, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
That's fine.  Ignore dirty Chi-town smear politics at your own peril.  Still a very well thought out and researched piece.  Does it concern you in the least that Axlerod has gone so far as to pilfer sealed court documents on a previous Obama opponent?  If you or I pulled that crap, we'd be sitting in prison right now.

It's Coulter.

Something else that gets me.  5 women come out and say this man did things that make him very bad and in no way fit to lead the USA.  A large faction of people decide they are all lying and set up by those who don't want the man to win the presidency.   It seems strange.

Conan71

Quote from: we vs us on November 10, 2011, 03:40:53 PM
Does it bother you that you're treating Ann Coulter as a primary source? 

I personally don't care for Coulter either but you and others are choosing to ignore some interesting facts because you don't like the messenger.  I don't like her either and seldom read her columns, but this one was brought to my attention and it was really startling.



"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on November 10, 2011, 04:03:50 PM
I personally don't care for Coulter either but you and others are choosing to ignore some interesting facts because you don't like the messenger.  I don't like her either and seldom read her columns, but this one was brought to my attention and it was really startling.





She says "hollywood sex kitten".  It's like reading the World News.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on November 10, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
It's Coulter.

Something else that gets me.  5 women come out and say this man did things that make him very bad and in no way fit to lead the USA.  A large faction of people decide they are all lying and set up by those who don't want the man to win the presidency.   It seems strange.

Ah, but it's fascinating how these claims have now metastasized into he's a molester or a monster.  Next it will be cobbled together he's a serial rapist.  Again I ask: Where were these women when he was a nobody in the polls?  Why does the second identified accuser who also filed complaints at her next job want all five women to have a joint presser?  It's theatrics and many people are seeing through this. 

They can't pick on Cain in any other way, so they've gone the most salacious route possible where he's go no defense other than his own denials against claims for which there's no corroborating witnesses and no evidence.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on November 10, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
Ah, but it's fascinating how these claims have now metastasized into he's a molester or a monster.  Next it will be cobbled together he's a serial rapist.  Again I ask: Where were these women when he was a nobody in the polls?  Why does the second identified accuser who also filed complaints at her next job want all five women to have a joint presser?  It's theatrics and many people are seeing through this. 

They can't pick on Cain in any other way, so they've gone the most salacious route possible where he's go no defense other than his own denials against claims for which there's no corroborating witnesses and no evidence.

Just an opinion but it might've scared them to think someone who attempted forceful sodomy might win the GOP nom.  So they spoke up after he started getting recognized.

They have things to pick on.  His 999 will never fly.  The IRS won't have it.  His lack of foriegn policy is scary.  That's all I've got at the moment because I doubt he'll get much farther.  He and Perry are Bachmanned.