The end of Herman Cain's campaign

[Townsend]

And then against Bob Dole - decent guy who was not charismatic in any way, shape, or form. 

Bob Dole!

[Conan71]

Bob Dole! Dull

[carltonplace]

Now Cain is groping for answers

During a videotaped discussion with the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel editorial board, Cain flubbed a straightforward question about whether he agreed with President Barack Obama's decision to devote American resources to the uprising in Libya. Cain paused for several seconds, but could not offer a clear answer.

"President Obama supported the uprising correct? President Obama called for the removal of Gaddafi? Just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing before I say yes, I agree or no, I didn't agree," Cain said. "I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reasons. Nope that's a different one. I gotta go back. I got all this stuff twirling around in my head. Specifically what are you asking me if I agree or don't agree with President Obama?"

[Conan71]

Now Cain is groping for answers

During a videotaped discussion with the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel editorial board, Cain flubbed a straightforward question about whether he agreed with President Barack Obama's decision to devote American resources to the uprising in Libya. Cain paused for several seconds, but could not offer a clear answer.

"President Obama supported the uprising correct? President Obama called for the removal of Gaddafi? Just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing before I say yes, I agree or no, I didn't agree," Cain said. "I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reasons. Nope that's a different one. I gotta go back. I got all this stuff twirling around in my head. Specifically what are you asking me if I agree or don't agree with President Obama?"

And that's fine if people want to judge his worth as a candidate based on issues like this.  I'd almost prefer a candidate to simply say "I don't know" on a foreign policy issue rather than to listen to a clumsy response.

FWIW, Dr. Zuckerman doesn't seem to have added anything to Gropegate.  Just another stiff reading a prepared statement about meeting Cain at some NRA function written by Gloria Allred.  I'm curious how many people Cain meets a year?  I'm pretty sure I don't recall every person I met 15 years ago either.  Move along, nothing to see there.

If Zuckerman was so sure about meeting Cain and it was that memorable, then why is he reading about the encounter word-for-word from a sheet of paper?  In spite of this not being positive publicity, it's publicity which translates into name recognition, and it's gotten a lot more people focusing on Cain for better or worse.

Gropegate is done, now lets see if he can stand on his own and stay at the front of the pack.  I have a strong suspicion that if Gingrich were the nominee, he would pick Cain for VP, just based on some things he's had to say about Cain.  He's, for the most part, refrained from going toe-to-toe with Cain and refers to the two of them being preferable candidates over the others in the field.

[heironymouspasparagus]

And that's fine if people want to judge his worth as a candidate based on issues like this.  I'd almost prefer a candidate to simply say "I don't know" on a foreign policy issue rather than to listen to a clumsy response.

And what else would you judge a candidate on?  He showed the hand of the 'you-know-who' very clearly - even if it is good for the U.S., and even if they agree inside, he had to try to find a way to disagree with Libya JUST BECAUSE it was during Obama's tenure.  No matter what - make the effort to make the U.S. fail, or at least appear to fail, as long as Obama is President.  He is following the plan and wishes that bubbled to the surface during the election from Limbaugh and Hannity.

Maybe if he just kept a steady hooker for 10 years?  Then dumped his wife and married the whore??  Would that be what we should judge him on?  (I think there is a vicarious streak in some people out there that is secretly cheering and mentally high-fiving Newt, while saying, "Yeah!" for all that.  The ones that are causing him to rise in the polls.)

[Conan71]

And what else would you judge a candidate on?  He showed the hand of the 'you-know-who' very clearly - even if it is good for the U.S., and even if they agree inside, he had to try to find a way to disagree with Libya JUST BECAUSE it was during Obama's tenure.  No matter what - make the effort to make the U.S. fail, or at least appear to fail, as long as Obama is President.  He is following the plan and wishes that bubbled to the surface during the election from Limbaugh and Hannity.

Maybe if he just kept a steady hooker for 10 years?  Then dumped his wife and married the whore??  Would that be what we should judge him on?  (I think there is a vicarious streak in some people out there that is secretly cheering and mentally high-fiving Newt, while saying, "Yeah!" for all that.  The ones that are causing him to rise in the polls.)

First, knock off the whore stuff on Gingrich's wife.  It lowers the level of discussion.

Second, I agree with you on the Libya point.  It really doesn't hurt someone to agree with some of the incumbent president's policies.  Cain may simply be so scared of popping off with the wrong comment right now because of all the recent negative publicity.  Plus we all saw how bad Palin was treated for mis-handling questions in the '08 race.  Cain is a confident man in general, but I think he's deathly afraid of saying the wrong thing and then having it plastered all over the media for the next few days.

I think Perry is done, but he at least was able to put a humorous spin on his lock up last week by appearing on Letterman the next night and poking fun at himself.  It gave him a very human persona, and his handlers were brilliant to broker that appearance even though I suspect he will fade to also-ran or running mate material.

[Teatownclown]

I really don't get why you guys haven't accepted the Mormon and RomneyCare.

But I can't wait to see how you build your arguments to destroy Obama and make Mitt fit....

[Townsend]

I really don't get why you guys haven't accepted the Mormon and RomneyCare.

But I can't wait to see how you build your arguments to destroy Obama and make Mitt fit....

[Townsend]

I think Perry is done, but he at least was able to put a humorous spin on his lock up last week by appearing on Letterman the next night and poking fun at himself.  It gave him a very human persona, and his handlers were brilliant to broker that appearance even though I suspect he will fade to also-ran or running mate material.

[Conan71]

I really don't get why you guys haven't accepted the Mormon and RomneyCare.

But I can't wait to see how you build your arguments to destroy Obama and make Mitt fit....

Obama doesn't need anyone else to destroy him.  He's done a fine job of it all on his own.

[heironymouspasparagus]

First, knock off the whore stuff on Gingrich's wife.  It lowers the level of discussion.

I made a reply earlier and it is now gone, so I guess I have been censured.

Let me only say that obviously we have a significant difference of opinion.

[Townsend]

Per a TW post:

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is scheduled to visit Oklahoma for an Oklahoma Republican Party rally next month, the party said...

[Conan71]

Per a TW post:

I think FMC and I will pass, just in case he really is a groper.

[Townsend]

I think FMC and I will pass, just in case he really is a groper.

Just carry your hat in front of you.

[RecycleMichael]

Let Herman roll you a fattee...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-cain-loosen-federal-marijuana-restrictions-160520011.html

At a campaign stop in Urbandale, Iowa, Tuesday, Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said he supports letting states establish their own laws regarding medical marijuana.

"If states want to legalize medical marijuana, I think that's a state's right," Cain said, according to NBC News. "Because one of my overriding approaches to looking at all of these issue --most of them belong at the state, because when you do something federally . . .  you try to force one-size-fits-all."

The federal government restricts consumption of marijuana under current law, but 16 states and the District of Columbia have passed measures to allow use of the drug in some form, causing friction between federal and state authorities. Despite  support in years past from President Obama for reforming federal marijuana laws, the Drug Enforcement Agency continues to raid  dispensaries that operate where marijuana use is legal on the state level.

A Gallup Poll conducted in October found that half of the population supports legalizing the drug. Cain's fellow GOP presidential candidates Texas Rep. Ron Paul and Texas Gov. Rick Perry have also voiced support for allowing state and local discretion on the issue.