Occupy Tulsa Releases Its Demands

[ZYX]

For the most part, I don't agree with their list of grievances but they're not all that terrible.

The little part about them being able to use a public plaza, park, etc., they need to learn and respect the rules just like everyone else. Sure they can use the park, from 5am to 11pm. And they should NOT be allowed to erected tents in the park without a permit, because it prevents others from using the space.

The anti-war education sounds like a crapload of propaganda.

And higher education is not, and should never be a right. It's one of those things in life that you have to work for. If you don't like that, start your own college. I don't see it lasting very long when you let everyone who feels like it in , though.

Ultimately, the thing that really drives me crazy about these "Occupy" people, is that they put more energy complaining about all these " injustices" than they do working to fix them. How about they get themselves out of the tents, and work to make something of themselves and the world around them.

A prosperous life is not a right.

[cannon_fodder]

I stopped by the downtown shopping after working late, parking near the Occupy folks.  When I left there was 25-30 people standing in the mini-amphitheater listening to a guy discuss the occupy movement.  He was spirited and enthusiastic, he knew what he wanted to talk about and the crowd was into it.

Seemed like they were having a spirited discussion among themselves.  Good for them.  Even if I don't agree with them wholeheartedly I'm reassured to see people at least interested in what's going on.  Ambivalence is the death of a republic, a partisan 2 party system is bad too but...

[Conan71]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=17727.0

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=18154.0

You missed the one he started on the unsubstantiated rumors about Mary Fallin's alleged affairs.

Why are people defending the occutards in the first place?

[Conan71]

For the most part, I don't agree with their list of grievances but they're not all that terrible.

The little part about them being able to use a public plaza, park, etc., they need to learn and respect the rules just like everyone else. Sure they can use the park, from 5am to 11pm. And they should NOT be allowed to erected tents in the park without a permit, because it prevents others from using the space.

The anti-war education sounds like a crapload of propaganda.

And higher education is not, and should never be a right. It's one of those things in life that you have to work for. If you don't like that, start your own college. I don't see it lasting very long when you let everyone who feels like it in , though.

Ultimately, the thing that really drives me crazy about these "Occupy" people, is that they put more energy complaining about all these " injustices" than they do working to fix them. How about they get themselves out of the tents, and work to make something of themselves and the world around them.

A prosperous life is not a right.

DING...DING...DING!

Birth of a conservative...

[Townsend]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=17727.0

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=18154.0

She does say crazy things and Flynt did seek that information.

I'm still not sure where this list really came from. 

Don't get me wrong.  I'd rather these guys found another way to make their point.  I like our parks.

[Teatownclown]

Where's Virginia Jenner when you need a leader?

[nathanm]

Birth of a conservative...

Well, the birth of credulousness toward the propaganda of high finance, anyway.

First hint: They are doing something; exercising their First Amendment right to petition the government for redress of grievances. Highlighting bad behavior and a broken system is the first step towards fixing it. And make no mistake, the system is broken. That uber-socialist Obama won't even prosecute the criminal acts of the big banks. Not even for violations of the Servicemember's Civil Relief Act, which I don't think anybody in their right mind (aside from the criminals, anyway) could possibly have a problem with.

[guido911]

First hint: They are doing something; exercising their First Amendment right to petition the government for redress of grievances.

They are? If so, why are they occupying wall street instead of D.C.? And if they are, I guess this is how they sign a petition.

[Townsend]

They are? If so, why are they occupying wall street instead of D.C.? And if they are, I guess this is how they sign a petition.

Your fetish is showing.

[guido911]

Your fetish is showing.

Dammit. I have to do better.

[nathanm]

They are? If so, why are they occupying wall street instead of D.C.? And if they are, I guess this is how they sign a petition.

That they gather at the figurative scene of the crime does not prevent them from communicating their grievances.

[Gaspar]

This morning KRMG reported that Occupy Tulsa no longer recognizes Occupy Tulsa.  Two separate groups have emerged.  One led by Socialists, Daniel Lee & Stephanie Lewis, and one led by another group who disagrees with the first group.  Apparently this all started when donations to the group went missing.  I've kept an eye on their discussion forum.  A couple of months ago, Lee and Lewis were accused of misusing and not accounting for funds by several members, then before the split, the forum was rebuilt and all accusations of mismanagement by other members was sanitized.

Apparently during that time Lee and Lewis claim to have had their accounts hacked.




Lee says he started the Occupy Tulsa Facebook page on September 23rd.
It was "hijacked on December 18 at 2:15 a.m."

The pair also claim that a Paypal account, email addresses and the occupytulsa.com website were hacked or attacked about the same time.
They say others in the group were angry with actions they had taken, including trying to shut down illegal activities in which they say members of the group were involved.

There were "fifteen to sixteen people that were using various drugs or drinking and putting us all at risk," Lewis told KRMG.
"We had said no more drinking, no more drugs and the kids didn't like that."

Lee told of a particular incident he found disturbing.

"One of our occupiers, this female, felt threatened because this other guy was highly intoxicated, took off his clothes and started running around the Green," he said, referring to Centennial Green downtown, the site of the occupation. http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/occupy-tulsa-movement-moves-indoors-splits-two/nGGZg/

STRAIGHT OUT OF PYTHON!!

[guido911]

"One of our occupiers, this female, felt threatened because this other guy was highly intoxicated, took off his clothes and started running around the Green," he said, referring to Centennial Green downtown, the site of the occupation.[/color] http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/occupy-tulsa-movement-moves-indoors-splits-two/nGGZg/

Saw the same things at tea party events.

edited. And that python vid was spot frakkin on.

[Gaspar]

Saw the same things at tea party events.

Yeah but if you turn you fanny-pack around you can get away with it an no one notices.

[Ed W]

One of our occupiers, this female, felt threatened because this other guy was highly intoxicated, took off his clothes and started running around the Green," he said, referring to Centennial Green downtown, the site of the occupation.

That's nothing unusual out here in the 'burbs.  In fact, most Fridays I strip off all my clothes, rub peanut butter in my hair, and run down the street screaming.  Now that I think of it, today is Friday!  Gotta go.....