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OSU Big 12 Football Champions

Started by GG, December 03, 2011, 10:45:55 PM

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GG

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AquaMan

Congrats are due. The Cowboys had the team this year. Too bad LSU and Alabama won't have the chance to have their teams challenged. Instead we get to see another "boring bowl" featuring two of the most over rated teams in recent history slug it out like Sumo wrestlers on a playground.

BCS sucks.
onward...through the fog

Conan71

Don't be so sure yet, A.M.  Looking at the strength of schedule, OSU makes a strong argument to get a shot at LSU.  We will find out this evening, it looks like.  Such a dominating defensive performance on the part of OSU...wow!
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

AquaMan

Although I love the dramatic buildup to a late season game between OU/OSU, I would really like to see them play early or midseason before injuries, grades and disciplin alter the teams. I do believe it would have been closer had OU not lost some key players. To see how those great OSU pass defenders would have done against Broyles would have been fun.

BCS is influence prone. ESPN leads the charge for the SEC. How they do not see the drama of a powerhouse offensive/defensive team formerly coached by Les Miles facing a thuggish slow moving LSU team and a Big 12/SEC matchup as better than a re-hash of SEC teams is a pretty good example. They are looking for large market teams to play each other.
onward...through the fog

dbacks fan

OSU is west of the Mississippi to ESPN.

Laramie

Gotta give it up to the Oklahoma State Cowboys, congratulations on your win over my Oklahoma Sooners--game well played!
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nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on December 04, 2011, 09:13:34 AM
Don't be so sure yet, A.M.  Looking at the strength of schedule, OSU makes a strong argument to get a shot at LSU.  We will find out this evening, it looks like.  Such a dominating defensive performance on the part of OSU...wow!

You really think it would be fun to watch OSU get utterly creamed by LSU? There is no freakin' way you go up against that defense.
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Hoss

Quote from: nathanm on December 04, 2011, 06:12:49 PM
You really think it would be fun to watch OSU get utterly creamed by LSU? There is no freakin' way you go up against that defense.

Probably won't happen...OSU still trails in the AP and Coach's Poll.  They would have to pull ahead of 'Bama in the Harris, and I just don't see that happening.  Not that I wouldn't love to see Les Miles face his old team.  But I think LSU would crush them.

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on December 04, 2011, 09:13:34 AM
Don't be so sure yet, A.M.  Looking at the strength of schedule, OSU makes a strong argument to get a shot at LSU.  We will find out this evening, it looks like.  Such a dominating defensive performance on the part of OSU...wow!

Except for the fact that OSU lost to a 28 point underdog.  And while I understand, I'm not very fond of the excuse I'm hearing (regarding those lost in the plane crash) as the reason they lost the game.  They had that game by 10 points at half.  Did they suddenly just then realize they had lost those two coaches?  Sorry if that sounds harsh, but they should have beat them.

Hoss


Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on December 04, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
Looks like it's set...

LSU to play Alabama for the BCS Title.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7316817/lsu-tigers-alabama-crimson-tide-rematch-set-bcs-title-game

Let the Poke whining commence....

I already have.   Aside from their only loss coming at the hands of LSU, they faced a "weaker" schedule than OSU did based on the number of top 25 and top 50 ranked opponents they beat.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on December 04, 2011, 06:20:43 PM
Except for the fact that OSU lost to a 28 point underdog.  And while I understand, I'm not very fond of the excuse I'm hearing (regarding those lost in the plane crash) as the reason they lost the game.  They had that game by 10 points at half.  Did they suddenly just then realize they had lost those two coaches?  Sorry if that sounds harsh, but they should have beat them.

Gundy has said all along the defense was worn out at ISU.  They've always posed a problem for OSU even in the Pokes best years and ISU's worst.  Some of the scarier losses and near losses I've seen OSU take over the years have been by ISU.  The only saving grace this year was that OU got beat by Baylor the next night so the bleating didn't last very long.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on December 04, 2011, 07:32:28 PM
Gundy has said all along the defense was worn out at ISU.  They've always posed a problem for OSU even in the Pokes best years and ISU's worst.  Some of the scarier losses and near losses I've seen OSU take over the years have been by ISU.  The only saving grace this year was that OU got beat by Baylor the next night so the bleating didn't last very long.

But in actuality, Baylor beating OU hurt OSU's SOS.

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on December 04, 2011, 07:33:58 PM
But in actuality, Baylor beating OU hurt OSU's SOS.

I doubt it, I've long since suspected the powers that be in BCS and the voting coaches hate the Big 12. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on December 04, 2011, 07:35:20 PM
I doubt it, I've long since suspected the powers that be in BCS and the voting coaches hate the Big 12. 

That's probably the case also, but you can't make the SoS numbers lie.  Had OU beat Baylor, it would have given the Pokes a better chance given that they had won over OU by the same margin.

Now Poke fans know what Sooner fans go through during the BCS snub period.