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Should pseudoephedrine be by prescription only in Oklahoma?

Started by Townsend, December 09, 2011, 11:31:10 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

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I had occasion to buy a box of 96 tabs yesterday at Walgreen's.  Wasn't too big a deal - had to show ID and they scanned it.  Probably would put up a flag if tried to get more anytime soon.

Had a nephew (age 28) who tried to buy some at Wally World in Owasso just after Christmas.  They called the cops, who came to investigate.  Put him in handcuffs for "everyone's safety" until they were done and decided he had no record or warrants and probably wasn't cooking meth (no chemical smell on him or his clothes).  Took a little over an hour.

He told them to keep their PE.

Maybe I will have to try to stock up over the next few months before we get even more ignorant in this state.  50 to 60,000 tabs ought to last me the rest of my life...

Geez.  What a mess.





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Conan71

Quote from: custosnox on March 14, 2012, 06:33:09 PM
Just to point out, there are a lot of us out there that doesn't have insurance and that yearly checkup doesn't happen (I don't think I've been in at least 6 or 7 years).  It also really isn't the same as getting antibiotics either.  How many people need antibiotics on a regular basis as compared to allergy sufferers? Same with many other prescription only meds.  It would be closer to try and compare it to making Tylenol to script only.  It is something widely used for a common ailment.  I would like to know more about PE in gel tabs.  Not finding anything really helpful on the google.

You are a self-supporting college student at the moment, right?  I'm pretty certain in this town there are plenty of free and low cost options for an annual check up.  If you ever had a sinus infection, doesn't TCC maintain some sort of infirmary?  Otherwise a cash visit to the PCP should be not much more than $100.  I'm pretty sure there are some who do lower rates for people in the same income situation.

I'm not scolding, just saying do the research and get your annual checks, man!  Nothing worse than figuring out you have something which may have not been such a big issue if diagnosed a lot sooner.  Just sayin'.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on March 14, 2012, 06:43:17 PM
It's not great to take ibuprofen unnecessarily, though.

Better alternative than Tylenol for those who like their wine or beer. Ibu seems to have digestive tract issues.  Too much Tylenol cooks the liver.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

custosnox

Quote from: Conan71 on March 14, 2012, 08:16:58 PM
You are a self-supporting college student at the moment, right?  I'm pretty certain in this town there are plenty of free and low cost options for an annual check up.  If you ever had a sinus infection, doesn't TCC maintain some sort of infirmary?  Otherwise a cash visit to the PCP should be not much more than $100.  I'm pretty sure there are some who do lower rates for people in the same income situation.

I'm not scolding, just saying do the research and get your annual checks, man!  Nothing worse than figuring out you have something which may have not been such a big issue if diagnosed a lot sooner.  Just sayin'.
Of course, there is also that whole I don't like doctors thing to go along with it.  But honestly, I'm having a hard time making rent, so even the $100 is too much to ask.  It's the situation that a lot of people are in.  Also why I don't complain too often about the issue with getting the meds, can't afford em more than a couple of times a year.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on March 14, 2012, 08:19:04 PM
Too much Tylenol cooks the liver.

For sure, but it takes more than 4 grams in a day for most people to have trouble. Obviously that's less for heavy drinkers whose liver is already taking enough abuse. Cumulative exposure seems not to be an issue as long as the daily dose is below your magic threshold.

Ibuprofen's damage is more of a cumulative thing. If you only take it once in a while you won't have a problem even if you have 3 or 4 at once unless you have preexisting GI problems.
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Conan71

Quote from: custosnox on March 14, 2012, 08:24:34 PM
Of course, there is also that whole I don't like doctors thing to go along with it.  But honestly, I'm having a hard time making rent, so even the $100 is too much to ask.  It's the situation that a lot of people are in.  Also why I don't complain too often about the issue with getting the meds, can't afford em more than a couple of times a year.

Last I'll badger you- you might qualify for SoonerCare with your present situation.  Worth looking into.  IIRC, Family & Children's Services can help you determine if you do qualify and they will help enroll you if you do.  My ex's sister moved back here from England after getting divorced and had absolutely nothing when she arrived.  The program saved her butt until she could land a regular job with benefits (and a stable income).
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

custosnox

Quote from: Conan71 on March 15, 2012, 09:20:15 AM
Last I'll badger you- you might qualify for SoonerCare with your present situation.  Worth looking into.  IIRC, Family & Children's Services can help you determine if you do qualify and they will help enroll you if you do.  My ex's sister moved back here from England after getting divorced and had absolutely nothing when she arrived.  The program saved her butt until she could land a regular job with benefits (and a stable income).
To be honest, I prefer to suck on the government teat as little as possible.  I feel I've been taking more than my fair share as it is with government grants for school.  But I'm still in good health, and improving my lifestyle, so I might be able to hold out a couple more years until I can manage to get into something with benefits.

DolfanBob

Quote from: custosnox on March 15, 2012, 11:33:14 AM
To be honest, I prefer to suck on the government teat as little as possible.  I feel I've been taking more than my fair share as it is with government grants for school.  But I'm still in good health, and improving my lifestyle, so I might be able to hold out a couple more years until I can manage to get into something with benefits.

Atta boy. Plan for the future. Who wants to grow old and broke. You wind up in a urn instead of a nice pricey pine box.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

Conan71

Quote from: custosnox on March 15, 2012, 11:33:14 AM
To be honest, I prefer to suck on the government teat as little as possible.  I feel I've been taking more than my fair share as it is with government grants for school.  But I'm still in good health, and improving my lifestyle, so I might be able to hold out a couple more years until I can manage to get into something with benefits.

And nothing wrong with that either, custo.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: custosnox on March 15, 2012, 11:33:14 AM
I feel I've been taking more than my fair share as it is with government grants for school. 

That is one thing I wish everyone would and could use.

custosnox

Quote from: DolfanBob on March 15, 2012, 12:23:42 PM
Atta boy. Plan for the future. Who wants to grow old and broke. You wind up in a urn instead of a nice pricey pine box.
Urn? Pine box?  I've already given instructions I'm to be disposed of in an active volcano.

DolfanBob

Quote from: custosnox on March 15, 2012, 02:16:36 PM
Urn? Pine box?  I've already given instructions I'm to be disposed of in an active volcano.

Hmm. Your name isnt Joe is it ?
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

custosnox

Quote from: DolfanBob on March 15, 2012, 02:20:31 PM
Hmm. Your name isnt Joe is it ?
Nope, and I don't think I'll win either.  Great movie though :D

Townsend

So this limits you to 240 pills of Sudafed Congestion a month?  Am I reading it right?

Anti-meth bill passes Oklahoma Senate

http://www.ktul.com/story/17524952/anti-meth-bill-passes-oklahoma-senate?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

QuoteOKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - A bill targeting the manufacture of methamphetamine by limiting the sales of an ingredient in the drug and creating an online system of monitoring the sales in Oklahoma and other states has passed the state Senate.

Pseudoephedrine is found in many common cold and allergy medications and is a key ingredient in meth. The bill limits the amount of pseudoephedrine that a person is allowed to purchase monthly to the recommended monthly dosage - about 2.5 boxes.

It also requires pharmacies to have an online system connected with systems in other states to track sales of the drug and prevent individuals from purchasing more than the allowed amount.

It now goes back to the House for final consideration before being sent to the governor.

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on April 18, 2012, 01:04:38 PM
So this limits you to 240 pills of Sudafed Congestion a month?  Am I reading it right?

Anti-meth bill passes Oklahoma Senate

http://www.ktul.com/story/17524952/anti-meth-bill-passes-oklahoma-senate?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


What?  I can only use eight 12 hour tablets a day? 

Outrage!

What if I'm really really stuffed up?
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