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Obummer Sez No Veto On Defense Bill

Started by Teatownclown, December 14, 2011, 04:48:27 PM

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Teatownclown

Now, where's Guido, RA, Gaspar and the gang on this issue?

Is anyone surprised that POTUS promised he'd veto but now will sign this heinous bill?

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/white-house-says-no-1259587.html

You'll be shocked if I bow to the GOP cultist instead of pumping for 4 mo years of dis crapolla....

Teatownclown

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70443.html

Hawks circling....

Quote"It offends the hell out of me that we would even consider that," said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) of the defense cuts. "These men and women have really gone out of our way to protect all of us."
Flanked by Graham and Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, Kyl said the spending cuts that would offset the sequester would be a mix of specific reductions identified during the supercommittee negotiations, the deficit talks led by Vice President Joe Biden and other not-as-well-known proposals, such as a plan drafted by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.).


Lindsey hiding behind our soldiers .....

Gaspar

I think we've learned that President Obama does a lot of talking and promising.

This country is lead by Congress now, and they have little time for his campaigning.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on December 15, 2011, 07:35:22 AM
I think we've learned that President Obama does a lot of talking and promising.

This country is lead by Congress now, and they have little time for his campaigning.

Given Congress' approval ratings, they might do good to listen to the Executive...

Gaspar

Quote from: Hoss on December 15, 2011, 09:04:59 AM
Given Congress' approval ratings, they might do good to listen to the Executive...

They probably wish they could, but instead of offering them well developed ideas and directions, he bombards them with un-developed concepts, and just tells them to "run with it."  He is not leading, he is not integrating his philosophy and wisdom with the legislature, he is a lot like a boss who says "I don't care how you do it, just do it," and leaves for the country club. He's not professional, he's professorial!. . .and because he lacks the will to work WITH congress, many of his ideas are wrought with flaws that consulting with more experienced legislators, or constituants, could have avoided.

Even members of his own party are critical of this:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/cardozas-corner/198861-the-professorial-president

Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.)
Early in his administration, President/Professor Obama repeatedly referred to "teaching moments." He would admonish staff, members of Congress and the public, in speeches and in private, about what they could learn from him. Rather than the ideological or corrupt "I'm above the law" attitudes of some past administrations, President Obama projected an arrogant "I'm right, you're wrong" demeanor that alienated many potential allies. Furthermore, the president concentrated power within the White House, leaving Cabinet members with no other option but to dutifully carry out policies with which they had limited input in crafting and might very well disagree. From my experience, this was especially true in the environmental, resources, housing and employment areas. Not by coincidence, these areas have also been responsible for much of the president's harshest critiques.

One former administration official told me directly that the people in the White House "NEVER TALK TO REAL PEOPLE." Another former Obama staffer confided to me that it was clear to him that the president didn't mind giving speeches (lectures), but really avoided personal contact with members of Congress and folks outside the Beltway. "He doesn't seem to derive energy from spending time with regular people the way Clinton did. He rallies to give speeches for the big crowds, but avoids individual contact," the former staffer recalled. This "arms-length" attitude extends to top decision-makers in the president's administration. A senior housing official recently told me that, despite the fact that he was responsible for crafting policies to stem the foreclosure crisis, he had personally never met with a homeowner who had been foreclosed on. 
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on December 15, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
They probably wish they could, but instead of offering them well developed ideas and directions, he bombards them with un-developed concepts, and just tells them to "run with it."  He is not leading, he is not integrating his philosophy and wisdom with the legislature, he is a lot like a boss who says "I don't care how you do it, just do it," and leaves for the country club. He's not professional, he's professorial!. . .and because he lacks the will to work WITH congress, many of his ideas are wrought with flaws that consulting with more experienced legislators, or constituants, could have avoided.

Even members of his own party are critical of this:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/cardozas-corner/198861-the-professorial-president

Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.)
Early in his administration, President/Professor Obama repeatedly referred to "teaching moments." He would admonish staff, members of Congress and the public, in speeches and in private, about what they could learn from him. Rather than the ideological or corrupt "I'm above the law" attitudes of some past administrations, President Obama projected an arrogant "I'm right, you're wrong" demeanor that alienated many potential allies. Furthermore, the president concentrated power within the White House, leaving Cabinet members with no other option but to dutifully carry out policies with which they had limited input in crafting and might very well disagree. From my experience, this was especially true in the environmental, resources, housing and employment areas. Not by coincidence, these areas have also been responsible for much of the president's harshest critiques.

One former administration official told me directly that the people in the White House "NEVER TALK TO REAL PEOPLE." Another former Obama staffer confided to me that it was clear to him that the president didn't mind giving speeches (lectures), but really avoided personal contact with members of Congress and folks outside the Beltway. "He doesn't seem to derive energy from spending time with regular people the way Clinton did. He rallies to give speeches for the big crowds, but avoids individual contact," the former staffer recalled. This "arms-length" attitude extends to top decision-makers in the president's administration. A senior housing official recently told me that, despite the fact that he was responsible for crafting policies to stem the foreclosure crisis, he had personally never met with a homeowner who had been foreclosed on.  


Trying to say he's not the kind of guy to sit down and have a beer with a commoner to learn what really matters to real people?

I wonder if Mr. Kaiser ever got a photo op with the president on all those trips to the White House or is there an email floating around somewhere that says: "16 trips to the White House and all I got was this lousy $500 million loan!"
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on December 15, 2011, 10:07:29 AM
Trying to say he's not the kind of guy to sit down and have a beer with a commoner to learn what really matters to real people?

I wonder if Mr. Kaiser ever got a photo op with the president on all those trips to the White House or is there an email floating around somewhere that says: "16 trips to the White House and all I got was this lousy $500 million loan!"

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan