At&T U-Verse Sucks...................

[Hoss]

So I don't know if you watch anything on local ABC but:

AT&T U-verse Refuses To Carry KTUL Tulsa's Channel 8 After December 31st.

http://www.ktul.com/story/16378550/att-u-verse-refuses-to-carry-ktul-tulsas-channel-8-after-december-31st-tulsa-area-viewers-will-lose-abc-programming-on-att-u-verse?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Yet another reason they suck.

[patric]

So I don't know if you watch anything on local ABC but:

AT&T U-verse Refuses To Carry KTUL Tulsa's Channel 8 After December 31st.

I think you will find KTUL was asking for a price increase for the privilege of carrying it's signal on U_verse.
When at&t balked at the prospect of having to raise it's rates just to placate a less-significant broadcaster, KTUL decided to play the victim card rather than negotiate a fairer rate.

[Hoss]

I think you will find KTUL was asking for a price increase for the privilege of carrying it's signal on U_verse.
When at&t balked at the prospect of having to raise it's rates just to placate a less-significant broadcaster, KTUL decided to play the victim card rather than negotiate a fairer rate.

Maybe so, but, as indicated, the other carriers evidently didn't have a problem with it.  Only AT&T did.

And I wouldn't consider KTUL a 'less-significant broadcaster'.  At least they don't focus their news on a completely different area of the state, ala KOTV.  I've stopped watching their newscasts because I don't need to know about what's going on in OKC.

[AquaMan]

Well, the loss of Channel 8 to me is a significant thing. I wasn't told that and I would expect those who signed up would like to know they won't be getting one of the local broadcasters.

So, get this. I call to cancel Cox and the guy seems dismayed. Here's the conversation:
Cox: Why? You've been a customer since 1993.

Well, I countered, they made me a good offer, the timing was right since we were also re-upping our cell phones and I like the idea of the DVR. My son has the system and it works well

Cox: Well, Why didn't you call us?

Me? Call you? Why haven't you called me? You guys will offer any one walking through the door better deals than you give me after 18 years of faithful service.

Cox: We run television adds telling you all about our offers. All you had to do was call. Most of our customers don't like salespeople and prefer to call us.

I am not most people but I am a salesperson and have been for most of my life. And, there is a difference between selling someone something, which most people don't like, and providing good service to long term customers by offering them the latest deals, which people do like. You did neither. Also, I am not a big consumer of television and darn sure not a big consumer of television advertising. That's why we want the DVR. But I did notice I received a call from you folks the day after I signed up for Uverse, so you do have salespeople who are well connected and lazy.

You know one other thing while I have you. The last time I called in to apologize and explain a late payment, the operator was so impressed with me she suggested they needed people who could converse, were respectful and had sales background. She told me to apply and she would refer me. So I did. And less than 48 hours later I was e-mailed a rejection even though I was well qualified. Not even an interview. I think it was my age. How old are you?

Cox: Let me make an offer for you to comeback. We have DVR. I'll put your account on pending.

Ok.

[DolfanBob]

It would bother me too. I have a secret crush on Yvonne Lewis. Shush.....dont nobody tell her.

[Townsend]

It would bother me too. I have a secret crush on Yvonne Lewis. Shush.....dont nobody tell her.

Her favorite color is yellow.  Remember that when you send her the flowers and letters.

[DolfanBob]

Her favorite color is yellow.  Remember that when you send her the flowers and letters.

Hmm nice to know. Switching into stalker mode. 

[patric]

And I wouldn't consider KTUL a 'less-significant broadcaster'.  At least they don't focus their news on a completely different area of the state, ala KOTV.  I've stopped watching their newscasts because I don't need to know about what's going on in OKC.

That's a valid point.  Ever since 6 de-branded itself as a Tulsa station they've shamelessly been just a local bureau of an OKC broadcaster.

8 has a history of eccentric demands on carriers.  Remember when they would only allow cable to carry their signal if they could pre-empt CNN every hour with their "local edition"?  It was something taped after their 10pm show and played all the next day regardless of how stale the news was.

[Townsend]

Remember when they would only allow cable to carry their signal if they could pre-empt CNN every hour with their "local edition"?  It was something taped after their 10pm show and played all the next day regardless of how stale the news was.

I wondered about how that got set up back then.

[Teatownclown]

I have DISH. In three years, they will reign supreme. Especially if they get T Moblie or Sprint. They are set up to do huge things. Blockbuster. Siriusly...made to order TV is the future.

One single drawback is the weather interruptions. Bet they can solve that issue with all the bandwidth they have....

http://seekingalpha.com/article/298752-the-future-of-dish-networks-and-its-competitors
"There is no other company that offers a digital TV package, internet TV from Google (GOOG), and a mail-order program in the same way as DISH. The company is directly outperforming all of its competition and creating a service that is beyond the reach of its competitors. The company can compete with Amazon (AMZN) and Apple (AAPL) by offering its Google TV, it competes with Netflix by offering mail-order DVDs, and it competes with Directv by offering the same satellite services. But when you combine all of the services that DISH now offers and the strategic moves it's making for the future, which include Smartv with Intel (INTC), the company is on a different level in which no other service provider can compete."

"....  I believe that the company is fully capable of building a successful wireless segment and competing with the largest companies within the communications industry."

[custosnox]

Just Hulu it

[Hoss]

I have DISH. In three years, they will reign supreme. Especially if they get T Moblie or Sprint. They are set up to do huge things. Blockbuster. Siriusly...made to order TV is the future.

One single drawback is the weather interruptions. Bet they can solve that issue with all the bandwidth they have....

http://seekingalpha.com/article/298752-the-future-of-dish-networks-and-its-competitors
"There is no other company that offers a digital TV package, internet TV from Google (GOOG), and a mail-order program in the same way as DISH. The company is directly outperforming all of its competition and creating a service that is beyond the reach of its competitors. The company can compete with Amazon (AMZN) and Apple (AAPL) by offering its Google TV, it competes with Netflix by offering mail-order DVDs, and it competes with Directv by offering the same satellite services. But when you combine all of the services that DISH now offers and the strategic moves it's making for the future, which include Smartv with Intel (INTC), the company is on a different level in which no other service provider can compete."

"....  I believe that the company is fully capable of building a successful wireless segment and competing with the largest companies within the communications industry."

No dish in the world outside of one that is huge can solve the weather interruptions.  Dish/Direct/Whatever works fine on the edges of the country, where the weather isn't inclement, but the rain that happens here makes the discriminating (note that word) TV user cringe.  That and word of mouth over 6 years I've had.  I'll stick with cable as sofar they are the only ones that I can bundle my landline phone, internet and TV right now to the level I like.

[Townsend]

No dish in the world outside of one that is huge can solve the weather interruptions.  Dish/Direct/Whatever works fine on the edges of the country, where the weather isn't inclement, but the rain that happens here makes the discriminating (note that word) TV user cringe.  That and word of mouth over 6 years I've had.  I'll stick with cable as sofar they are the only ones that I can bundle my landline phone, internet and TV right now to the level I like.

Land line?

[Conan71]

The brinksmanship on channels being cut due to rate demands isn't only a problem with AT&T.  There were "Whaaaa...NatGeo isn't playing fair" messages on the program guide on DTV a month or so back due to rate increases from the broadcasters.  I don't remember how many channels were going to be affected but it was four or five.  They resolved it before the deadline.

[Teatownclown]

Land line?

eventually, wifi, land line, or computer will fill the drop off.....