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Started by zstyles, December 21, 2011, 09:21:57 AM

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zstyles

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/broken-arrow-residents-sound-about-casino-plans/nF6z7/

I just heard today that the land isn't owned or federal Indian land but is being leased by the tribe from two sisters who are Muskogee nation Indians and have nothing to do with this tribe...this tribe is far south of Tulsa from what I gather....so they can tear the land up and build on it but can't operate gaming in reality....

Thoughts?

Townsend

My thoughts?  The moment I heard "prefab" I thought "classy".

rdj

From what I know the tribe is a "sub tribe" of the Muscogee Creek tribe.  The land was originally allocated to a Muscogee Creek who is on the Dawes roll.  Since it has never left Native American ownership it doesn't have to go through the trust process that other land that left Native American ownership has to go through.
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Conan71

Quote from: rdj on December 21, 2011, 09:38:05 AM
From what I know the tribe is a "sub tribe" of the Muscogee Creek tribe.  The land was originally allocated to a Muscogee Creek who is on the Dawes roll.  Since it has never left Native American ownership it doesn't have to go through the trust process that other land that left Native American ownership has to go through.

A "tribal town" to be exact. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

zstyles

Quote from: Townsend on December 21, 2011, 09:27:17 AM
My thoughts?  The moment I heard "prefab" I thought "classy".

Good lord..even classier than I thought...

Townsend

Quote from: zstyles on December 21, 2011, 09:47:21 AM
Good lord..even classier than I thought...

I'm no future seer but this will probably suck for all neighbors.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on December 21, 2011, 09:49:32 AM
I'm no future seer but this will probably suck for all neighbors.

That's what they were saying on the news last night, though the hyperbole was getting a bit deep about all the LED billboards, crime, drugs, gangsters, frogs, and locusts this will attract.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

patric

Can Broken Arrow really be forced to provide taxpayer-owned infrastructure (Roads, sewer, water, etc.) to a "sovereign nation"?
What law compels this?
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

rdj

Running the water lines to connect to the city services are the only items they need a permit for, so I would guess they are footing the bill for that.  Although, I could be wrong.  If I was BA city leadership I wouldn't like it.  They need tax producing retail, not tax sucking casinos & non-tax paying churches.
Live Generous.  Live Blessed.

zstyles

I guess if Claremore can have a casino, BA can two...the two most church loving cities in Oklahoma per square foot...

heironymouspasparagus

Yeah...well I didn't want the Rhema cult to move to BA - could have stayed on Sheridan, or another 75,000 people, changing the town so much from what it used to be.  So, all these "newby" complainers - anyone there since 1975 - should just sit down and shut up.  Or move back to Tulsa where they came from.


Whiners.


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

custosnox

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on December 21, 2011, 01:11:10 PM
Yeah...well I didn't want the Rhema cult to move to BA - could have stayed on Sheridan, or another 75,000 people, changing the town so much from what it used to be.  So, all these "newby" complainers - anyone there since 1975 - should just sit down and shut up.  Or move back to Tulsa where they came from.


Whiners.



Oh, quit your whining ;)

RecycleMichael

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heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

zstyles

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