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Started by Teatownclown, January 02, 2012, 03:07:25 PM

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Ed W

Quote from: Teatownclown on October 03, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
Hey RecyckledMichele, does this make RMoney's religion fair game?


Nothing makes a candidate's religion "fair game" regardless of which side of the aisle he's on.  Some on both the right and left have adopted gutter tactics that do nothing to facilitate serious political discourse, preferring instead to score cheap points at the expense of destroying collegiality and common cause.  We are all in this together - like it or not - and the only way to bring an end to the deadlock between our political parties is to begin acting like responsible adults.  If we want change at the top, the place to start is by changing ourselves.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on October 08, 2012, 08:12:17 PM
Why Obama's campaign is coming off the tracks....

Heh, one poll means Obama is being abandoned in droves. Here's the thing, guido. In December 2008, there were zero people expecting the economy would be where it is right now. Why? Because nobody yet knew how bad it was at the time. BLS was understating job losses fairly significantly, as sometimes happens in a rapidly changing economic environment.

Hoss, I don't recall the President failing to respond to Romney's lies, although maybe things got worse in the last 10 minutes of the debate after I turned it off. Romney just called Obama a liar every time and stuck by his own falsehoods. When faced with that, the proper response is not to give Romney the opportunity to repeat the same lie again and again, which is what the media seems to have expected him to do.

In other news, Romney today said that if he were President, he would make the country strong so we wouldn't get into wars in the middle east. Moments later, he proposed going to war with Syria. You'd think he could at least keep his themes straight within a single speech.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Hoss



Because nothing oozes likability than ending an interview on a valid question with a bit of a tantrum.  Good job Ryan.  Maybe you should have run a 2 hour marathon instead.

Hoss

Quote from: nathanm on October 08, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
Heh, one poll means Obama is being abandoned in droves. Here's the thing, guido. In December 2008, there were zero people expecting the economy would be where it is right now. Why? Because nobody yet knew how bad it was at the time. BLS was understating job losses fairly significantly, as sometimes happens in a rapidly changing economic environment.

Hoss, I don't recall the President failing to respond to Romney's lies, although maybe things got worse in the last 10 minutes of the debate after I turned it off. Romney just called Obama a liar every time and stuck by his own falsehoods. When faced with that, the proper response is not to give Romney the opportunity to repeat the same lie again and again, which is what the media seems to have expected him to do.

In other news, Romney today said that if he were President, he would make the country strong so we wouldn't get into wars in the middle east. Moments later, he proposed going to war with Syria. You'd think he could at least keep his themes straight within a single speech.

That's Etch-a-Sketch at it's finest.  He can't even wait for the hour to end before he makes the switch.  It's clear to me that really the only reason he's in this is to pad his resume.  He doesn't care about serving his country.  He's just serving himself at this point.

guido911

Even Gallup is telling people to discount the only good news Barry has gotten in the past 10 days or so.

http://www.readingthescore.com/gallups-chief-economist-big-drop-unemployment-rate-discounted/

Even in Hoss' video Ryan is seen slapping down a lib trying to push a stupid straw man and its viewed as a "tantrum". That about sums up what the left has going for it... And I'll raise you likability factor with this blast from the past (go to :40 for the hit)

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Hoss

Quote from: guido911 on October 08, 2012, 09:15:56 PM
Even Gallup is telling people to discount the only good news Barry has gotten in the past 10 days or so.

http://www.readingthescore.com/gallups-chief-economist-big-drop-unemployment-rate-discounted/

Even in Hoss' video Ryan is seen slapping down a lib trying to push a stupid straw man and its viewed as a "tantrum". That about sums up what the left has going for it... And I'll raise you likability factor with this blast from the past (go to :40 for the hit)



Hey, dude asked a valid question.  Then Ryan's handlers tell the press it was because 'he went over the alloted time'.  Yeah, right.  Why do we see an aide trying to block the camera at the end?  Does he not want the rest of the exchange recorded?

guido911

The fear is palpable in this forum. Could it be that the guy who couldn't get a job in Bain's mail room be toppled? And I am not even looking at polls, I mean other than the poling Obama is currently getting from the electorate, because polls generally suck.

And look what's coming up. Libya cover up, foreign campaign contributions, F&F, Biden for just being him...
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Hoss

Quote from: guido911 on October 08, 2012, 09:20:52 PM
The fear is palpable in this forum. Could it be that the guy who couldn't get a job in Bain's mail room be toppled? And I am not even looking at polls, I mean other than the poling Obama is currently getting from the electorate, because polls generally suck.

And look what's coming up. Libya cover up, foreign campaign contributions, F&F, Biden for just being him...

And like I said again, all Romney has to do is speak.  On a pretty constant basis, Romney makes Biden look like a rank amateur at the art of the gaffe.  I'm sure his campaign leaders have a pucker factor of 9 or better when Romney is at the podium.

Fact of the matter is, I like neither candidate.  I just happen to dislike Romney more because he is the master flip-flopper.  And a straight-up liar.  All politicians are liars.  He should get a gold medal for it though.

Hoss


Hoss

What happened to that Gallup poll tie Romney had?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

In case it changes, here you go:


nathanm

Tell me Guido, does Romney still think we should have used whatever means necessary to keep Mubarak in power and contend that we'd be better off with Qaddafi? Or did he finally realize what a joke his Middle East policy is?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Teatownclown

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Quote from: Ed W on October 08, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
Nothing makes a candidate's religion "fair game" regardless of which side of the aisle he's on.  Some on both the right and left have adopted gutter tactics that do nothing to facilitate serious political discourse, preferring instead to score cheap points at the expense of destroying collegiality and common cause.  We are all in this together - like it or not - and the only way to bring an end to the deadlock between our political parties is to begin acting like responsible adults.  If we want change at the top, the place to start is by changing ourselves.

Hoss...Gallup is not a poll star ....it's something Mitten's horses do...Nate, RMoney's mid east plan is based on hope with out touching.

Ed, you can underline it all you desire but I don't recall you being around when these jokers were playing the Rev. Wright card.

I think a persons religious convictions are as important as their character. Not all religions are alike. Some religions are not born from principle.  I want to know who will be pulling their strings and to whom they are beholden to. I want to understand why they put their religion in a priority position over their country.  

The inner circle of Mitt Romney's tabernacle have their sole goal but to get a Mormon into office and thereby accepted by DC...they will tell his candidate to say anything he needs to for elect-ability. I know more Christians who murmur in private conversation their skepticism over Mormons.
They've gamed our tax system while they evolved out of a cult. Today would such a new wave religious phenomena be possible?

What would happen if one year from today POTUS Obama were to pull a Clay/Ali transfiguration?

Ed W

Quote from: guido911 on October 08, 2012, 09:20:52 PM
...And I am not even looking at polls, I mean other than the poling Obama is currently getting from the electorate, because polls generally suck.


Guido, Nate Silver's aggregated polling numbers still indicate that the president has a 75 percent chance of winning.  That's down from 85% last week.  I know it's the current theme du jour in Republican circles to downplay these polls, but they're mostly devoid of bias. 

What happens when the election is over and they're shown to be correct?
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

nathanm

Quote from: Teatownclown on October 08, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
Nate, RMoney's mid east plan is based on hope with out touching.

Given that he's said that he'd basically do whatever Netanyahu asks, I don't think not touching is the Romney plan. Of course, that assumes he hasn't changed his plan in the last week.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Hoss

Quote from: Ed W on October 08, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
Guido, Nate Silver's aggregated polling numbers still indicate that the president has a 75 percent chance of winning.  That's down from 85% last week.  I know it's the current theme du jour in Republican circles to downplay these polls, but they're mostly devoid of bias. 

What happens when the election is over and they're shown to be correct?

And Nate's poll aggregations (remember, it's not his data; he's merely aggregating state and national polling data using formulas...you know, Republicans...math?) have been pretty darn accurate in the last two elections from my understanding (by last two elections, I mean the 2008 and the mid-terms).