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Romney a Notorious Idiot?

Started by guido911, January 15, 2012, 08:35:25 PM

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Gaspar

Quote from: AquaMan on January 16, 2012, 02:39:25 PM

One man's movement is another man's breaking wind....


Good reason not to wear white pants.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend


Colbert Ad Airing in S.C. Attacks Romney For Being A 'Serial Killer'


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/colbert-ad-airing-in-s-c-attacks-romney-for-being-a-serial-killer/

QuoteIn an interview with George Stephanopoulos Sunday on ABC's This Week Colbert claimed he had not seen the ad.

"I had nothing to do with that ad. I have no control over that ad," Colbert said. "I am not calling anybody a serial killer. I can't tell Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow what to do. It's not my super PAC."



Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on January 16, 2012, 02:20:50 PM
I'm not doubting there's a movement, I'm just doubting its popularity. 

Are you high? This is a thing and has been for months. It has been the standard explanation for why we have this seemingly endless cycle of possible Romney-replacements advancing and retreating in the polls like the tides.

However, I must say that this is delightfully amusing. You constantly bring up BS that nobody else talks about when it suits you and then suddenly when this thing which does not suit you comes up you deny that it even exists! That has got to be the biggest dose of cognitive dissonance I have ever been witness to.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

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Quote from: nathanm on January 16, 2012, 03:16:14 PM
Are you high? This is a thing and has been for months. It has been the standard explanation for why we have this seemingly endless cycle of possible Romney-replacements advancing and retreating in the polls like the tides.

However, I must say that this is delightfully amusing. You constantly bring up BS that nobody else talks about when it suits you and then suddenly when this thing which does not suit you comes up you deny that it even exists! That has got to be the biggest dose of cognitive dissonance I have ever been witness to.

Romney is no Ronald Reagan.  That is the model that conservatives hold all candidates to, but that is far from embracing an "anyone-but-mitt" movement.  I just don't see what you seem to be pushing.

I do relish when people I engage in discussion start name calling though.  Please continue.  ;D
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Teatownclown


nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on January 16, 2012, 03:58:27 PM
I do relish when people I engage in discussion start name calling though.  Please continue.  ;D

I don't particularly enjoy it when people I engage in discussion lose touch with reality and make absurd accusations.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

AquaMan

Quote from: Gaspar on January 16, 2012, 03:58:27 PM
Romney is no Ronald Reagan.  That is the model that conservatives hold all candidates to....

Maybe now. But I heard he was not so popular with conservatives during the primaries. The Goldwater wing didn't think he was conservative enough.
onward...through the fog

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on January 16, 2012, 03:58:27 PM
Romney is no Ronald Reagan.  That is the model that conservatives hold all candidates to, but that is far from embracing an "anyone-but-mitt" movement.  I just don't see what you seem to be pushing.


Not really.  What they hold to is the idea of holding to the model of Ronald Reagan which is a far sight from holding to the ideal.

He understood some fundamental things that recent hijackers of his ideal just don't and never will have a clue about.  In point of FACT, if we did somehow manage to get back to the "Reagan Ideal", these same posers would be screaming to high heaven...

But then, time has the ability to fuzz reality.  (Plus the copious quantities of booze the posers ingest...?)
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Quote from: AquaMan on January 16, 2012, 07:06:43 PM
Maybe now. But I heard he was not so popular with conservatives during the primaries. The Goldwater wing didn't think he was conservative enough.

That is true, he is more moderate than the far right would like, but I think that makes him a better candidate for the majority of conservatives.  He was also governor of an extremely liberal state and was very successful working across party lines in that state.  I think that is more of what we need than say an Obama or Gingrich, who have a difficult time working with diverse groups and differing political philosophies.

I think his biggest obstacle is actually his success.  As our dependency state has grown, so has the number of people who display hatred towards success.  That growing population admires victims over victors.  Because they are driven by envy instead of ingenuity. They will try to make Romney into an evil person simply based on the fact that he has been successful.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Quote from: Gaspar on January 17, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
That is true, he is more moderate than the far right would like, but I think that makes him a better candidate for the majority of conservatives.  He was also governor of an extremely liberal state and was very successful working across party lines in that state.  I think that is more of what we need than say an Obama or Gingrich, who have a difficult time working with diverse groups and differing political philosophies.

I think his biggest obstacle is actually his success.  As our dependency state has grown, so has the number of people who display hatred towards success.  That growing population admires victims over victors.  Because they are driven by envy instead of ingenuity. They will try to make Romney into an evil person simply based on the fact that he has been successful.



My biggest concern about Romney is the same one that Conan and others had about Obama. His experience with making alliances and deal making with Congress is lacking. Even less than Obama had. Massachusetts may be good experience, but he didn't have to fight his own people there. Just across the aisle. Congress is as fractionated as the Republican party.
onward...through the fog

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on January 17, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
I think that is more of what we need than say an Obama [...], who [has] a difficult time working with diverse groups and differing political philosophies.

Pull the other one. At nearly every turn Obama has been to the right of his party in the name of compromise and bipartisanship. What more could you ask for? The Congressional Republicans to not take that as a sign they need to move even further right?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: AquaMan on January 17, 2012, 11:54:08 AM
My biggest concern about Romney is the same one that Conan and others had about Obama. His experience with making alliances and deal making with Congress is lacking. Even less than Obama had. Massachusetts may be good experience, but he didn't have to fight his own people there. Just across the aisle. Congress is as fractionated as the Republican party.

If President Obama wouldn't have attached a tax increase to every "compromise" he might have gotten more "get along" out of conservatives.  Granted, we've got a crop of GOP's in Congress now who think they have a mandate to buck every single thing the President and Democrats want to pass.  Indeed much of what their agenda has been the last three years is an ever more-intrusive government which flies in the face of conservative ideology.  Perhaps Gov. Romney will be a better deal maker.  He understands the art of negotiation from years in business.  President Obama's experience as a community organizer and a legislator from Chicago has only given him an understanding of negotiation with a sledge hammer.

JMO, of course.  ;)

Nate, there's always been a pile for Republicans attached to every compromise.  He even blames the GOP when it's the Democrats in the Senate who are holding up his initiatives.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Compromise does not equal giving the other side everything they want and getting rid of everything you want.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on January 17, 2012, 05:51:15 PM
If President Obama wouldn't have attached a tax increase to every "compromise" he might have gotten more "get along" out of conservatives.  Granted, we've got a crop of GOP's in Congress now who think they have a mandate to buck every single thing the President and Democrats want to pass.  Indeed much of what their agenda has been the last three years is an ever more-intrusive government which flies in the face of conservative ideology.  Perhaps Gov. Romney will be a better deal maker.  He understands the art of negotiation from years in business.  President Obama's experience as a community organizer and a legislator from Chicago has only given him an understanding of negotiation with a sledge hammer.

JMO, of course.  ;)

Nate, there's always been a pile for Republicans attached to every compromise.  He even blames the GOP when it's the Democrats in the Senate who are holding up his initiatives.

Tax increase needs to be defined. You pulled that one: "If President Obama wouldn't have attached a tax increase..."

and "Perhaps Gov. Romney will be a better deal maker" made me smirk.

I think he used the sledge hammer on Osama and Company so what's so wrong about using it on Congress?

Don't look for anything to happen with the budget until the election is over. And the dims would fall in line if they had some GOP/Teabaggers to vote with them.