Edward Delk's Bar and Restaurant

[Conan71]

IMO, The Vault needs a menu overhaul if they want to stay busy.  Great venue and the food is good, just nothing particularly memorable or something I crave to go downtown for.  Cocktail menu is second to none and they do have great service, I'd simply like to see more items rotating in and out of the menu since it's limited to about six or eight entrees. 

Anyone know if the kitchen has limited equipment which restricts the menu to things which can only be heated in an oven or cooktop?

[Teatownclown]

Carl, what i dislike is imbalanced growth and poorly thought out development. I don't hate anything. I even gave you hints of a big downtown deal working as we speak....I would be concerned  about your attitude. Get an adjustment!

[saintnicster]

IMO, The Vault needs a menu overhaul if they want to stay busy.  Great venue and the food is good, just nothing particularly memorable or something I crave to go downtown for.  Cocktail menu is second to none and they do have great service, I'd simply like to see more items rotating in and out of the menu since it's limited to about six or eight entrees.

The Vault Pasta is something that I've had cravings for.  

The mac & cheese?  Sort of bland, IMO.  It would be magnificent with bacon.

[davideinstein]

Carl, what i dislike is imbalanced growth and poorly thought out development. I don't hate anything. I even gave you hints of a big downtown deal working as we speak....I would be concerned  about your attitude. Get an adjustment!

Feel free to explain to me how a daytime population of nearly 30K is a bad investment for a sandwich shop. I'm all ears.

[Teatownclown]

Feel free to explain to me how a daytime population of nearly 30K is a bad investment for a sandwich shop. I'm all ears.

I never said that.

Delk's was more than a sandwich shop. It was another boozerie....and had an extensive menu.

Inexperienced entrepreneurs?

[heironymouspasparagus]

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[saintnicster]

The Vault Pasta is something that I've had cravings for.  

The mac & cheese?  Sort of bland, IMO.  It would be magnificent with bacon.

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You edited my post instead of replying, conan -.-

And no, not the same thing as the mac and cheese.  Description from the menu

VAULT PASTA
rotini, sausage, eggplant, spinach, cherry tomatoes, lemon,
garlic, parmesan & toasted walnuts

They don't have a price on just a side of it, but I've been able to order that at dinner.  They've got a smaller portion that you can order as a lunch special.

[Conan71]

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You edited my post instead of replying, conan -.-

And no, not the same thing as the mac and cheese.  Description from the menu
They don't have a price on just a side of it, but I've been able to order that at dinner.  They've got a smaller portion that you can order as a lunch special.

That's bizarre. 

I'll give the pasta a shot next time we are there.

[DTowner]

No, it's a question everyone should be asking.  Its basic market forces.  In a crowded market you have to provide a top notch product.  Delk's nailed the decor, but failed at food and in my experience service.  If you don't hit all three you don't stay in a crowded market.

Delk's also had the burden of the large expense of the build out and the furnishings, etc.  That creates a big cash flow need just to service the debt/investment.

[Conan71]

Delk's also had the burden of the large expense of the build out and the furnishings, etc.  That creates a big cash flow need just to service the debt/investment.

I've heard some banter on Facebook that an Italian concept is going in the spot, so it won't be idle long.

[carltonplace]

I've heard some banter on Facebook that an Italian concept is going in the spot, so it won't be idle long.

Wonder if they are installing a vent? That was one of the main limitations for Delk's kitchen.

I'd like a good Thai place downtown...we already have a few mediocre Italian places.

[dbacks fan]

Just curious, who carried the financial load on the build out, was it Delk or the property owner? I read reviews of Delk's on yelp! urbanspoon and Trip Advisor and they were mixed as to 60% liked it and 40% didn't and the compalints were universal almost on the food, srevice and prices and those three always seem to be the down fall of most places. Also noticed that The Vault has similar reviews on those three sites as well.

[rdj]

They were essentially one in the same.  Hunt Hawkins was a partner in Delk's.  His family owns the Philtower.

[dbacks fan]

They were essentially one in the same.  Hunt Hawkins was a partner in Delk's.  His family owns the Philtower.

Thanks. The reason I was asking is if it was the Philtower that fronted the build out, the cost could very likely be past on to the next tenant to pay for the build out. If it was carried solely buy the tenenat, the owner would not be trying to recover construction costs, and could get reasonable rent without passing the cost to the next tenant.

Although, and just guessing, with the Philtower being part owner, I would think they are going to add in the cost (buildout cost added to the lease) on whoever is next, and from the sound of things if there is no vent in the kitchen, it is still a very limited market for a restaraunt to open there again.

[carltonplace]

I said from the beginning they needed to scale back the food to what the kitchen could support.

Both Hodges Bend and the 1764 Wine Bar are doing fine serving upscale cocktails and cheese platters with no other food.