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Started by Gaspar, February 09, 2012, 09:29:36 AM

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Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on February 09, 2012, 10:02:33 AM
Helps to avoid the conversation.



This coming from the master of it...sourced, anyway.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on February 09, 2012, 10:04:48 AM

You are implying that religious groups should be taxed.



Of course they should be taxed.  They're a business.

You think the Jethro Dollar is in on the game for Jesus?

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on February 09, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
Of course they should be taxed.  They're a business.

You think the Jethro Dollar is in on the game for Jesus?

So, if that is the case, what about the charitable offsets that we grant for other "Businesses" like Community Health charities, or Planned Parenthood, or educational institutions, or other institutions that pay no taxes because their charitable expenditures exceed their tax liability?

Would we have to mandate that church, synagogue, mosque expenditures such as religious education, outreach, and other programs do not count as charitable expenditures?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on February 09, 2012, 10:26:36 AM
So, if that is the case, what about the charitable offsets that we grant for other "Businesses" like Community Health charities, or Planned Parenthood, or educational institutions, or other institutions that pay no taxes because their charitable expenditures exceed their tax liability?

Would we have to mandate that church, synagogue, mosque expenditures such as religious education, outreach, and other programs do not count as charitable expenditures?

So no taxes no matter what?  If the church buys a number of sports cars and wonderful homes for the use of the church leaders with no charitable function, it's ok?  It's for God?

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

AquaMan

onward...through the fog

Townsend


nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on February 09, 2012, 09:32:43 AM
Nah, that couldn't' be it.  Why should insurance companies pay for contraception for people who can afford it in the first place?

Because it's a lot cheaper than paying for an unintended pregnancy? Why should insurance companies pay for prenatal care for people who can afford it in the first place?

Also, I think it's funny that Gaspar is running so low on material he has to make stuff up to trash Obama with.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

Quote from: nathanm on February 09, 2012, 12:21:21 PM

Also, I think it's funny that Gaspar is running so low on material he has to make stuff up to trash Obama with.

He's deflecting.  Have you seen the wealth of material provided by the GOP this go 'round?

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on February 09, 2012, 10:28:52 AM
So no taxes no matter what?  If the church buys a number of sports cars and wonderful homes for the use of the church leaders with no charitable function, it's ok?  It's for God?

You didn't answer the questions.

QuoteSo, if that is the case, what about the charitable offsets that we grant for other "Businesses" like Community Health charities, or Planned Parenthood, or educational institutions, or other institutions that pay no taxes because their charitable expenditures exceed their tax liability?

Would we have to mandate that church, synagogue, mosque expenditures such as religious education, outreach, and other programs do not count as charitable expenditures?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Quote from: Gaspar on February 09, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
You didn't answer the questions.


You set the example for that. Why act surprised when others do the same to you?
onward...through the fog

Gaspar

Quote from: AquaMan on February 09, 2012, 01:12:53 PM
You set the example for that. Why act surprised when others do the same to you?

No.  He won't answer those questions and neither will you because both of you are intelligent logical thinkers and know exactly where your answer would lead.

It must be exhausting to just follow people around and offer one-line snipes to everything that they post.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on February 09, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
You didn't answer the questions.


Aquaman's right.  While you have helpful tech and bbq posts, your political and financial posts tend to suck.

Your political posts seem to be all about pointless arguments and made up crap.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on February 09, 2012, 01:21:09 PM

It must be exhausting to just follow people around and offer one-line snipes to everything that they post.

Jesus Gaspar, you really think your political posts are helpful?

Townsend

My posts sure aren't award winners but I try to post informative, helpful things on the forum.

If they're not helpful, I hope they're interesting.

What I take away from yours is just spiteful, anti-administration garbage meant to start arguments.