Senator Says Enough to OKC American Indian Museum Funding Requests

[sgrizzle]

Klingon raised by Russians.

Belarussians, and it's spelled Worf


I mean.. uh... YOU NERDS!

[Townsend]

Belarussians, and it's spelled Worf


I mean.. uh... YOU NERDS!

Belorussians. 

Show these guys what you have in your office.

[DTowner]

Tulsa World editorial today:

Native American
Center lacks private fundingBy World's Editorial Writers
Published: 2/17/2012  2:27 AM
Last Modified: 2/17/2012  3:23 AM


The Legislature has been bombarded with state bond issue requests - about $1 billion worth - from various agencies. At the top of the list is the proposed $140 million in state borrowing to repair the crumbling state Capitol.

Another is a request for another $40 million from the state for the half-completed American Indian Cultural Center, located in Oklahoma City. Lawmakers should think hard and long before agreeing to that deal.

The cultural center already has received a total of $67.4 million from three state bond issues. In addition, the Legislature has appropriated $1.5 million a year to run the Native American Cultural and Educational Authority, which was created in 1994 to get the cultural center done. About $1 million a year of that has gone for staff salaries and benefits.

The authority has raised very little in private funds to help support the project.

Blake Wade, newly hired as the part-time head of the authority, and who has been connected with successful projects including the construction of the state Capitol dome, says that with another $40 million in hand the authority will raise $40 in private money.

Here's a better idea: The authority should raise $40 million from private donors first, and then ask for a similar amount in taxpayer-paid bond funds.

The fact is that the cultural center has received little support in the form of cash dollars from the private sector in the Oklahoma City area or from the tribes in central and western Oklahoma.

Otherwise this project, if it is ever completed, will be paid for entirely by the taxpayers of Oklahoma. 

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/article.aspx?subjectid=61&articleid=20120217_61_A16_TheLeg974606

[Admin]

Belorussians. 

Show these guys what you have in your office.

No

[Townsend]

I saw that the weight room for the people is going to happen in the capital building.

I'm a little blown away they have a smoking room in the state capital.

[Conan71]

I saw that the weight room for the people is going to happen in the capital building.

I'm a little blown away they have a smoking room in the state capital.

They won't after the renovation is my understanding.

[Townsend]

They won't after the renovation is my understanding.

The smoke room will be the "weight room for the people" or whatever they'll call the weight room.

Probably the "Wait, I can't smoke in here? weight room for the people".

[heironymouspasparagus]

If we are calling for reparations...

My wife is Irish, her grandparents were forced out of Ireland by the British.  I've never gotten a single check from those protestant land-grabbing Brits.


I know this isn't the same and it isn't my intention to make light.  But you know the general concept is the same.  There was a war over land in the "new world" and the deck was stacked.  Native Americans lost and in many instances made treaties and were later flat out screwed over.  Unfortunately that story has been written throughout the entire world... and in fact is probably how a given tribe came to hold the land they were later screwed out of.  It wasn't right.  It still isn't.

However, there is not anything that can or will be done to make it right.  The people to punish for this transgression are as dead as the Prussians that kicked my ancestors out of Bavaria.  Admit we screwed up. Honor the treaties that we still have available.  Make things right that we are able to (tribes are still owed money under various treaties that has never been paid).  Then honor the tribal heritage and their identity and lets move on.

All true.  Don't forget the Palestinians treated the same way by the Israeli's.  And so on and on....a seemingly infinite parade of injustice.

Couldn't find a comprehensive statement of total value of all US property, but did find a statement that residential is estimated at $23 trillion.  Commercial must be pretty close to that, considering the how much more incrementally per foot the stuff costs (bldg plus land).  And the Federal lands are pretty big.  Just round it off to 30 trillion or so to keep it conservative.  We would still have a long way to go to make those reparations.


Let me first state that I don't like casino's very much and don't go to them, but I see them as an extremely viable way for the tribes to have an economic activity that benefits them quite a bit.  It's just a shame they had to partner up with the mafia and that so many of their customers are in great part from the lower economic strata - not at all like the TV commercials would have you believe.

[shadows]

To the victor go the spoils.  Promises are made to be broken.  The Native American as the vanquished saw both of his land then his promised lands divided into small plots, his right of self governing taken away from him and in the final ending is required to submit to federal, state and city laws as well as his own. 
We have fought three wars to install our selected groups at a horrible cost of lives and money. 
We have given away the local museum that was dedicated to him as being a child of nature. We have set a precedent in personally destroying leaders of other nations.  Heaven help us the day when we become the vanquished.
And now Whitey’s are gripping because some in their group want to save artifacts that if unattended will disappear in time.

   

[Hoss]

To the victor go the spoils.  Promises are made to be broken.  The Native American as the vanquished saw both of his land then his promised lands divided into small plots, his right of self governing taken away from him and in the final ending is required to submit to federal, state and city laws as well as his own. 
We have fought three wars to install our selected groups at a horrible cost of lives and money. 
We have given away the local museum that was dedicated to him as being a child of nature. We have set a precedent in personally destroying leaders of other nations.  Heaven help us the day when we become the vanquished.
And now Whitey's are gripping because some in their group want to save artifacts that if unattended will disappear in time.

   

Well, I'll say this much.  At least you're consistent...

[Townsend]

Well, I'll say this much.  At least you're consistent...

Like chaos theory

[shadows]

The Chaos Theory exits when the limitations of the mind are limited in its comprehension of the parameters of space.  Basically it is of the abstract revelation exploiting the unsuspecting of the daily changes in Nature as defined by Freud.  We extend the unexplained gravity attraction to include visions and perceptions so that sometime in the foreseeable future liken to the wild goose return to the nest.  The fundamentals instilled in man including greed has been with this hairless ape since evolution became more than just a theory.   So be it.

         

[Townsend]

The Chaos Theory exits when the limitations of the mind are limited in its comprehension of the parameters of space.  Basically it is of the abstract revelation exploiting the unsuspecting of the daily changes in Nature as defined by Freud.  We extend the unexplained gravity attraction to include visions and perceptions so that sometime in the foreseeable future liken to the wild goose return to the nest.  The fundamentals instilled in man including greed has been with this hairless ape since evolution became more than just a theory.   So be it.

Dogs and cats, living together.

[AquaMan]

There used to be a theory. Something like, if you put a 1000 chimps in a room with typewriters eventually they will produce Shakespeare.

He's not quite there yet.

[shadows]

Dogs and cats, living together.

The wolf and the lamb will lie together and lion will eat straw like the ox