Tulsa Harbour

[swake]

The key fact in the statement was the proposed museum covered 40 acres, this plan covers 95 acres.  And he's not asking for any public moneys to be spent, well, except for moving a wastwater treatment plant and movig one of Turkey Moutain's trails.  Oh, and the whole thing is "non-profit."

Put this on the self with all the other grandiose plans that are not serious and will never come to fruition.

Anyone have any guesses on what a new wastewater treatment plant might cost? Even if you could find a location. It can't be cheap.

[DTowner]

Oops, I've been placing these in a bin rather than a shelf...my bad.

I prefer the shelf because like the visual image of all the plans from the past....

[rdj]

I put them in the recycle bin because it seems the crazy donkey ideas always pop back up.

[SouthTulsaCountyDude]

Any more word on this "project"   where is he looking now

[jacobi]

I think its now slated to be part of newts moonbase.

[SouthTulsaCountyDude]

I am sure he can do this project at another site.

[carltonplace]

I think its now slated to be part of newts moonbase.

That sounds like a magical place. I hope they have a petting zoo with unicorns.

[shavethewhales]

I am sure he can do this project at another site.

I doubt he could do it anywhere, even if someone were to straight up give him a piece of land and all the permissions. The more I look at this whole ordeal the less I trust these developers from a professional standpoint. Sloppy work all around.

It's a shame too, because again, I'm a huge fan of amusement parks and entertainment centers. This state has yet to see one built and managed the right way.

I'd say at this point his goose is pretty much cooked and there is no where to go with this proposal. All those supposed years of work for nothing.

[AquaMan]

You may be right. And the consequence is that any other amusement park development now carries the burden of his sloppiness. Its hard enough to get people to listen to good ideas around here unless you have tons of money or a foundation behind you. This just makes it even harder.

[dbacks fan]

Anyone have any guesses on what a new wastewater treatment plant might cost? Even if you could find a location. It can't be cheap.

Gilbert Arizona built one in the las decade, opened in 2009, with a capacity of 24MGD (million gallons/day) expandable to 48MGD for $102million dollars. Took about three years to build.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/gilbert/articles/2009/06/08/20090608gr-waterplant0610.html

http://www.gilbertaz.gov/pw/pdf/SVWTPBrochure0709.pdf

[RecycleMichael]

Wastewater plants cannot be just easily moved around. You also have to move the pipes that feed the plant. Everything comes into play. Elevation matters and if you have to make water go uphill, you have to add pump stations too.

[Gaspar]

I smell Red Herring.

1. The location is 100% unworkable, and would never gain approval.
2. The location is designed to get the people up-in-arms.
3. There was a plan circulating around several years ago for a harbor with all of the same features floated by a jenks developer that would have required the purchase of land owned by the Creeks.
4. If moved north or south of this location, this thing could work.  Therefore, I think that is the intension.

Great way to get lots of free publicity and "watchers" for your project without spending any money.  I suspect an announcement that "after input from the community, the developer is exploring options to move the project to ________."  At that point there will be rejoicing, back-patting and everyone will feel like a winner. Of course that's only if there is actually the potential for funding.

[SouthTulsaCountyDude]

I doubt he could do it anywhere, even if someone were to straight up give him a piece of land and all the permissions. The more I look at this whole ordeal the less I trust these developers from a professional standpoint. Sloppy work all around.

Please explain about your comment... sloppy work all around?   

[shavethewhales]

Please explain about your comment... sloppy work all around?   

Have you been following this project at all? Look through the pages of this thread. They chose a terrible location that not only is poorly suited for their project but also riled up half of Tulsa against them, their planning is obviously terrible, and their communications make them sound like they are all insane. Even the project itself doesn't make sense if you pull it apart. The amusement and water parks aren't going to attract nearly enough people to make all that lodging space feasible, and the retail space is going to have a hard time doing well seeing as so many other locations like this are doing poorly already. I don't see that racecar museum doing all that great here either. Never mind the fact that to do all this they have to bulldoze a mountain first.

[RecycleMichael]

Never mind the fact that to do all this they have to bulldoze a mountain first.

I would use explosives.