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Started by dsjeffries, February 20, 2012, 10:24:01 AM

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dsjeffries

Saw this posted on the RiverParks Facebook page and thought I'd bring it to everyone's attention. Apparently, some God-driven (seriously, God told him to put it there) developer wants to put an amusement park on/at Turkey Mountain.



Apparently, the City knows about it, representatives know about it, and George Kaiser knows about it. All (it seems) are opposed so far.

Anyone have more information on it?

Turkey Mountain Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/turkeymountain

More on the story: http://maduko.com/2012/02/19/bad-river-development-idea-no-24/

Edit: I really want to know what the "Coliseum of Speed" is.
Change never happened because people were happy with the status quo.

Hoss

Quote from: dsjeffries on February 20, 2012, 10:24:01 AM
Saw this posted on the RiverParks Facebook page and thought I'd bring it to everyone's attention. Apparently, some God-driven developer wants to put an amusement park on/at Turkey Mountain.



Apparently, the City knows about it, representatives know about it, and George Kaiser knows about it. All (it seems) are opposed so far.

Anyone have more information on it?

Turkey Mountain Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/turkeymountain

More on the story: http://maduko.com/2012/02/19/bad-river-development-idea-no-24/

Turkey Mountain needs to be left the way it is.  I always remembered it as a landmark when I'd fly back in to RVS.  That and the Camelot Hotel (tower ATC would use that as a directional landmark, i.e. "fly direct to Camelot").  Not so much anymore...in the winter, 'fly the white tanks' was more prominent when the wind was out of the north.

ZYX

While I would love to see a large amusement park built in Tulsa, I would hate to see Turkey Mountain developed in any commercial way. All that needs to be there is trails. For that reason I oppose this development, although I do applaud the concept of a developer trying to bring something to the river. I think other locations could possibly be considered (maybe) but not here.

carltonplace

Quote from: ZYX on February 20, 2012, 10:30:27 AM
While I would love to see a large amusement park built in Tulsa, I would hate to see Turkey Mountain developed in any commercial way. All that needs to be there is trails. For that reason I oppose this development, although I do applaud the concept of a developer trying to bring something to the river. I think other locations could possibly be considered (maybe) but not here.

I think God should leave Turkey Mountain the way he made it: as a large hill with some trees and trails and ponds on it (but no turkeys)

Hoss

Quote from: carltonplace on February 20, 2012, 10:41:34 AM
I think God should leave Turkey Mountain the way he made it: as a large hill with some trees and trails and ponds on it (but no turkeys)

Had any of you been aware of the Petroglyphs?  From my reading, many mainstream archaeologists think these are hoaxes, but I'm curious...

http://www.tatur.org/Turkeycarvings.html

dsjeffries

My favorite line from the blog that ran the story: "It must be classy because they put a U in harbor." Reminds me of our discussion about Shoppes and Towne Centres.

I wonder how far along this is; whether it's just a pretty drawing, or if the Council has had discussions about it and just not let the public in. I honestly don't see this going anywhere, though. Aside from the approvals and permits needed from the City Council and TMAPC, they'd also have to do an EIS and get approval from the Corps of Engineers. We all know how hard it is to develop anything in this town, let alone something like this.
Change never happened because people were happy with the status quo.

Hoss

Quote from: dsjeffries on February 20, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
My favorite line from the blog that ran the story: "It must be classy because they put a U in harbor." Reminds me of our discussion about Shoppes and Towne Centres.

I wonder how far along this is; whether it's just a pretty drawing, or if the Council has had discussions about it and just not let the public in. I honestly don't see this going anywhere, though. Aside from the approvals and permits needed from the City Council and TMAPC, they'd also have to do an EIS and get approval from the Corps of Engineers. We all know how hard it is to develop anything in this town, let alone something like this.

And for that matter, what the hell is the "Coliseum of Speed"?

dsjeffries

Quote from: Hoss on February 20, 2012, 10:52:08 AM
And for that matter, what the hell is the "Coliseum of Speed"?

A quick Google investigation turned this up:

"Just learned of Kens death. What a racing tradegy. A friend for sure and he will be missed. Have known Ken for 40 years. He was the greatest. Had the opportunity working with him the least several months on the up and coming auto racing Museum here in Tulsa THE COLISEUM OF SPEED which will include a complete history of Ken and his work. What a shame. REST IN PEACE KEN!"

(source)
Change never happened because people were happy with the status quo.

carltonplace

Quote from: Hoss on February 20, 2012, 10:52:08 AM
And for that matter, what the hell is the "Coliseum of Speed"?

If God is involved you just know its going to have some lions running around.

Conan71

Urban Wilderness Area suits the description of Turkey Mountain so well.  I don't see this ever coming to fruition. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: dsjeffries on February 20, 2012, 11:00:55 AM
A quick Google investigation turned this up:

"Just learned of Kens death. What a racing tradegy. A friend for sure and he will be missed. Have known Ken for 40 years. He was the greatest. Had the opportunity working with him the least several months on the up and coming auto racing Museum here in Tulsa THE COLISEUM OF SPEED which will include a complete history of Ken and his work. What a shame. REST IN PEACE KEN!"

(source)

Thanks for the link.  Ken Coles was an amazing photographer.  I'd often wondered if there were an on-line archive for his images.

The genesis of the now world-famous Chili Bowl Midget Nationals lies somewhat in that Astrodome midget show in 1969.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

jacobi

I wouldn't hate this is if it were further north.  If it were somewhere on zink lake (maybe a marina too) it would be great.  But that far south doesn't make any sense.
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Hoss

Quote from: jacobi on February 20, 2012, 11:21:56 AM
I wouldn't hate this is if it were further north.  If it were somewhere on zink lake (maybe a marina too) it would be great.  But that far south doesn't make any sense.

I feel you have just incurred the wrath of Aquaman....

jacobi

QuoteI feel you have just incurred the wrath of Aquaman....

I feel like I should make a justice league of america joke.  :D
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Conan71

Quote from: jacobi on February 20, 2012, 11:21:56 AM
I wouldn't hate this is if it were further north.  If it were somewhere on zink lake (maybe a marina too) it would be great.  But that far south doesn't make any sense.

If the area this fellow is talking about is the old sludge pits on the north side of the 71st St. bridge, it's not a bad land use for it.  However, It looks like he wants to build up into Turkey.

Even south of 71st St. would make good sense.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan