Tulsa Harbour

[Hoss]

I've taken a topographic view of the area and put the siteplan next to it. I've tried to correct for size and put them on an equal scale but it's hard to do with the siteplan because it was a photo taken at an angle and there aren't many other markers on it. But here's my guess, and I don't know how in the world they plan on doing this...

And they call that 'minimally invasive'?  Compared to what?

[Townsend]

And they call that 'minimally invasive'?  Compared to what?

Hiroshima...Nagasaki...Dresden

[AquaMan]

If the shaded part represents the area they are wanting to develop...they are delusional.

[OwenParkPhil]

I would almost bet Robbie Bell and Jimmy DeJarnette know each other from the Tulsa fairgrounds.

[dbacks fan]

While there at it, why not build an island in the river with all the material they would remove from TM, and develop more housing and shopping there as well? Who needs an airport out there in Jenks anyway, they could turn it into upscale shopping and dining. They could tie it all together as a new district and have a regional draw that would attract thousands of people to come and spend money, it would be the greatest thing since sliced bread!

[swake]

And they call that 'minimally invasive'?  Compared to what?

Isn't there a rail line running right through the middle of that too?

Some of that parking would be at 45 degree angles on the side of the mountain. Or they would have to pull a Tulsa Hills and just level the whole thing. This isn't just a bad plan, it's stupid and not thought out.

[bacjz00]

I've driven up Turkey Mountian a few times with my kids recently and if they want it to be a 'park' or 'natural' or whatever they're calling it, they need to move all the freaking rocks that block the parking lot. People on Saturdays are parking on those windy roads to the west and walking over to the trails while a big ole parking lot sits empty.

Sorry for late reply, but for sure it sounds like you haven't seen the new trailhead and parking for Turkey Mountain which was moved a couple of years ago further down the hill.  You definitely should take your kids back and check out the upgrades, including great restroom facilities and some bouldering rocks for the little ones.

Don't know why anyone would start at the top now.

[Townsend]

Or they would have to pull a Tulsa Hills and just level the whole thing. 

That still bugs me.  My wife and I were talking about how pleasant it would be if it was actually "hilled"...with something called a "view".  Then I finished my panera, got back in my car, pointed it at pedestrians and moved on.

[swake]

That still bugs me.  My wife and I were talking about how pleasant it would be if it was actually "hilled"...with something called a "view".  Then I finished my panera, got back in my car, pointed it at pedestrians and moved on.

My daughter, who was 9 or 10 at the time, cried when they burned the forest that was on that hill.

[Townsend]

My daughter, who was 9 or 10 at the time, cried when they burned the forest that was on that hill.

It was done again South of 81st.

[Conan71]

I know!!!  Let's re-elect Randi Miller to County Commissioner.  Then Robbie Bell can develop the site plan and spend the money on the preliminaries, then the county can give it to Murphy to develop.

[Red Arrow]

BTW, that railroad line is barely used.  

That RR goes to Kimberly Clark.  It is also part of the future commuter/light rail route to Jenks and eventually to Bixby.

[Gaspar]

That site plan is so jacked up in so many ways it's not even worth addressing.

This is a joke, and not even a funny one.

[DTowner]

I'm confused why the backers say this is the only spot they will consider.  The land south of the Creek Turnpike is mostly cleared and waiting to be developed (I'm assuming that $1 billion project is not going to happen).  This spot has everything the Turkey Mountain site has without the need to minimally invade a nature park.

These folks may have spent a lot of money putting this "plan" together, but something about it just doesn't sound legit.

[Townsend]

I'm confused why the backers say this is the only spot they will consider.  The land south of the Creek Turnpike is mostly cleared and waiting to be developed (I'm assuming that $1 billion project is not going to happen).  This spot has everything the Turkey Mountain site has without the need to minimally invade a nature park.

These folks may have spent a lot of money putting this "plan" together, but something about it just doesn't sound legit.

Tulsa Hills and surrounding area development must have something to do with it.

Didn't someone mention God telling him to do it?