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Started by dsjeffries, February 20, 2012, 10:24:01 AM

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Weatherdemon

Quote from: bacjz00 on February 21, 2012, 02:28:07 PM
Sorry for late reply, but for sure it sounds like you haven't seen the new trailhead and parking for Turkey Mountain which was moved a couple of years ago further down the hill.  You definitely should take your kids back and check out the upgrades, including great restroom facilities and some bouldering rocks for the little ones.

Don't know why anyone would start at the top now.

Thanks for the info!

bacjz00

 

Weatherdemon

Quote from: bacjz00 on February 24, 2012, 09:40:55 AM
Sure thing Damon ;)

(golden!)

Ha!
Seems you have me at a disadvantage  ;)

Hurricane!

HeyMambo

Quote from: Conan71 on February 21, 2012, 05:06:38 PM
Don't bend over to tie your shoes.
From your comment, I can tell you haven't been out there in the past ten years! Turkey Mountain is already a jewel to Tulsa The only activity up there now is Family's hiking, runners and mountain bikers. Those other activity's are in the past. So lets leave them there!

Scott

Conan71

Quote from: HeyMambo on February 27, 2012, 01:05:38 PM
From your comment, I can tell you haven't been out there in the past ten years! Turkey Mountain is already a jewel to Tulsa The only activity up there now is Family's hiking, runners and mountain bikers. Those other activity's are in the past. So lets leave them there!

Scott

No, you just missed my dry sense of humor.  8)

Actually, I'm a very active cyclist, road, mountain, & CX and ride all over TM and around it. 

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

ARGUS

FAIL-where is the so-called developer named in this bad pipe dream? No name=fail. Kinda even pisses me off that a media outlet would run a crap story as this w/out disclosing the "developer". We as a nation need less of this type of hype.
 

shavethewhales

Quote from: ARGUS on February 27, 2012, 01:16:37 PM
FAIL-where is the so-called developer named in this bad pipe dream? No name=fail. Kinda even pisses me off that a media outlet would run a crap story as this w/out disclosing the "developer". We as a nation need less of this type of hype.

The developer's name is Jimmy DeJarnette. You can read a little from him here: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20120221_16_A1_CUTLIN381030

Part of the reasons that the developers are being quiet right now is that this all blew up in their face before they were ready. Somehow somebody associated with Turkey Mountain ran into one of the developers, got a photo of the plans, and within a day all the news stations and area activists are up in arms over the proposal. They're probably biding their time until things cool down and the city is more willing to break a deal. We'll see if he's true to his word about not doing it in another location. If he's serious and push comes to shove, he'll move it up or down the river eventually. We'll see if this proposal actually survives a few more months though.

Teatownclown

Quote from: shavethewhales on February 27, 2012, 04:27:45 PM
The developer's name is Jimmy DeJarnette. You can read a little from him here: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20120221_16_A1_CUTLIN381030

Part of the reasons that the developers are being quiet right now is that this all blew up in their face before they were ready. Somehow somebody associated with Turkey Mountain ran into one of the developers, got a photo of the plans, and within a day all the news stations and area activists are up in arms over the proposal. They're probably biding their time until things cool down and the city is more willing to break a deal. We'll see if he's true to his word about not doing it in another location. If he's serious and push comes to shove, he'll move it up or down the river eventually. We'll see if this proposal actually survives a few more months though.

He's a novice from what you say. See, it's amazing how much trouble crayons can cause....

HeyMambo

Quote from: Conan71 on February 27, 2012, 01:12:49 PM
No, you just missed my dry sense of humor.  8)

Actually, I'm a very active cyclist, road, mountain, & CX and ride all over TM and around it. 


Cool  8)

shavethewhales

Here's an interesting message from the developer: http://tatur.org/tatur-tulsa-harbor-prop.pdf

Interesting how he talks about things like a trolley stop using the existing rail line to go back and forth from downtown Tulsa... kinda sad. I really want something like this developed for Tulsa, why can't we get somebody grounded in reality to do it?

swake

Quote from: shavethewhales on March 06, 2012, 03:58:00 PM
Here's an interesting message from the developer: http://tatur.org/tatur-tulsa-harbor-prop.pdf

Interesting how he talks about things like a trolley stop using the existing rail line to go back and forth from downtown Tulsa... kinda sad. I really want something like this developed for Tulsa, why can't we get somebody grounded in reality to do it?

Now he wants the south side of 71st, wants the city to lease him the land and move the wastewater treatment plant. No big deal.


Truman

It would be nice to see this developer take an interest in projects in Tulsa.
My apologies if this article has been posted elsewhere.



New Marina for Lake Keystone

By John Durkee   

Work is getting under way on a new 450-boat slip marina at Keystone Lake. The facility is being built on the north side of Mannford.

Tulsa Mayor Dewey Bartlett is taking part in the dedication ceremony. He says Lake Keystone is an economic development tool for Tulsa.

The new facility will feature heated fishing docks as well as an upscale restaurant. It is being built by the same developer who created the Cross Timbers at Skiatook Lake. it is being built on Army Corp of Engineers' property under a public/private partnership

LandArchPoke

I would love to actually see this guy sit down and try to explain the "conceptual" master plan of his development and how that giant surface parking lot would not destroy a large chuck of forest and terrain north of 71st between the river and elwood. If he wants to build this on the site of where the museum was supposed to go that's great. If he wants to lease the area where the water treatment facility is and he pays enough up front for the city to build a new one, then great, let him lease that area. If he expects the city to finance the new waste treatment facility, what happens in 5 years and this place goes belly up? Then the city just wasted a ton of money it didn't have to I say no to giving him a lease on that land. Here's an idea for the developer, build some parking garages instead of the GIANT nature killing surface parking lots shown and people probably wouldn't have been so upset about this proposal.

DTowner

Quote from: LandArchPoke on March 06, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
I would love to actually see this guy sit down and try to explain the "conceptual" master plan of his development and how that giant surface parking lot would not destroy a large chuck of forest and terrain north of 71st between the river and elwood. If he wants to build this on the site of where the museum was supposed to go that's great. If he wants to lease the area where the water treatment facility is and he pays enough up front for the city to build a new one, then great, let him lease that area. If he expects the city to finance the new waste treatment facility, what happens in 5 years and this place goes belly up? Then the city just wasted a ton of money it didn't have to I say no to giving him a lease on that land. Here's an idea for the developer, build some parking garages instead of the GIANT nature killing surface parking lots shown and people probably wouldn't have been so upset about this proposal.

The key fact in the statement was the proposed museum covered 40 acres, this plan covers 95 acres.  And he's not asking for any public moneys to be spent, well, except for moving a wastwater treatment plant and movig one of Turkey Moutain's trails.  Oh, and the whole thing is "non-profit."

Put this on the self with all the other grandiose plans that are not serious and will never come to fruition.







carltonplace

Quote from: DTowner on March 07, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
The key fact in the statement was the proposed museum covered 40 acres, this plan covers 95 acres.  And he's not asking for any public moneys to be spent, well, except for moving a wastwater treatment plant and movig one of Turkey Moutain's trails.  Oh, and the whole thing is "non-profit."

Put this on the self with all the other grandiose plans that are not serious and will never come to fruition.



Oops, I've been placing these in a bin rather than a shelf...my bad.