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(PROJECT) A Gathering Place For Tulsa

Started by sgrizzle, February 21, 2012, 10:36:58 AM

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AquaMan

to be accurate, it was Saturday nite. I was watching the Superbowl on Sunday too.

The area from Lewis to Harvard has had its deaths. The Scooter shop, Antique stores are in and out within months, the Gardener lady, the McKee building, the car lot across from it is a new tenant, and lots of little shops that didn't last long enough to make mental note. Yes, some of the long term folks who have bought their buildings or established clientele over many years still do well there. It is not a real healthy stretch of shops though.

Cherry Street proper has lots of vacant space on the south side between Utica and the Church. The new health food store looks really slow on the north. White Owl is over. We ate at Doe's on a Saturday nite recently and were...alone. Enjoyed talking to the owner and his dog though. I remember a children's store that was nearby but I think its gone now. The Lincoln center is slow as well. Is TeKei still there? My guess is that retail is a bust on that stretch. Restaurants, medical, insurance, banks, lawyers, the carwash and franchises are ok because of nearby hospital business.

Hey, I like these areas. I don't say this from just driving by. I drive partiers, reunions and organizations around town. They seldom request Cherry Street. Brady and, to a lesser extent Brookside, command them. But Tulsa has always been that way. An area gets hot, everyone wants to go there...until the next hot area comes. We aren't growing fast enough to support them all. Brookside is lucky to have a demographic living around it that is large and patronizes the area often by foot. Cherry got ravaged to the north and has to share with Utica Square to the south.
onward...through the fog

Conan71

Ahh, I think I know what the problem is!  Mine is:




Yours is:

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

swake

Quote from: AquaMan on February 03, 2014, 01:21:58 PM
to be accurate, it was Saturday nite. I was watching the Superbowl on Sunday too.

The area from Lewis to Harvard has had its deaths. The Scooter shop,

The Scooter Shop? Man, I hated that place. It replaced The Tap Room. Of course I think that was back in '93 or '94.

#grumpyoldmanrant

Townsend

Quote from: AquaMan on February 03, 2014, 01:21:58 PM

Cherry Street proper has lots of vacant space on the south side between Utica and the Church. The new health food store looks really slow on the north. White Owl is over. We ate at Doe's on a Saturday nite recently and were...alone. Enjoyed talking to the owner and his dog though. I remember a children's store that was nearby but I think its gone now. The Lincoln center is slow as well. Is TeKei still there? My guess is that retail is a bust on that stretch. Restaurants, medical, insurance, banks, lawyers, the carwash and franchises are ok because of nearby hospital business.

Hey, I like these areas. I don't say this from just driving by. I drive partiers, reunions and organizations around town. They seldom request Cherry Street. Brady and, to a lesser extent Brookside, command them. But Tulsa has always been that way. An area gets hot, everyone wants to go there...until the next hot area comes. We aren't growing fast enough to support them all. Brookside is lucky to have a demographic living around it that is large and patronizes the area often by foot. Cherry got ravaged to the north and has to share with Utica Square to the south.

White owl is relocating.  The building owners are putting something else in of their own.  Doe's has driven me away. The Snail is doing few any favors by keeping its doors open, (IMO).  

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on February 03, 2014, 02:22:05 PM
White owl is relocating.  The building owners are putting something else in of their own.  Doe's has driven me away. The Snail is doing few any favors by keeping its doors open, (IMO).  

Doe's has managed to stay there for at least 6-7 years I'm aware of.  No thanks to me, that's for certain.

There's quite a bit of stability on that part of Cherry St., IMO.  Chimi's, Jason's, Palace Cafe, Tucci's, Full Moon, Smoke (even before Smoke there was not rapid churn in that spot), Lucky's, Qdoba, LaDonna's, Panera, Drake's, the coffee shop, Hideaway, Kilkenny's, etc. ad nauseum.  I don't think Cherry St. has been a passing fad at all nor has it lost favor.  It's been one of the more stable areas of locally-owned retail and service businesses in the city.  When MC and I finally purchased wedding bands at Spexton, they said the move to Cherry Street really helped their visibility and business.  Even restaurants with less than stellar menus manage to find long term stability.  Walk it any Friday or Saturday night when it's not raining or snowing from end to end at 7pm and I bet it looks a lot different.

Sounds like I need to take Aqua out for a beer and cheer him up.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend


AquaMan

I'm changing clothes to go run a mile or so. I've drank so much beer, rum, wine and vodka and eaten so well the last month that I am soft, sloppy fat and angry about it. Grew a good beard though.

We'll see if that helps my attitude. Patience appreciated.


onward...through the fog

Conan71

Quote from: AquaMan on February 03, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
I'm changing clothes to go run a mile or so. I've drank so much beer, rum, wine and vodka and eaten so well the last month that I am soft, sloppy fat and angry about it. Grew a good beard though.

We'll see if that helps my attitude. Patience appreciated.




Yeah, I got a little doughy around the middle the last month as well. If all else fails, Townsend and I will meet you out for a beer.  Been too long anyhow.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on February 03, 2014, 03:54:45 PM
Townsend and I will meet you out for a beer.  Been too long anyhow.

Indeed

AquaMan

What's that Arlo Guthrie lyric?....one person talking alone may just be crazy, two people talking are conspiratorial, three and you got a movement!

I could use some inspiration. Name a place and a time.
onward...through the fog

Townsend

Quote from: AquaMan on February 03, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
What's that Arlo Guthrie lyric?....one person talking alone may just be crazy, two people talking are conspiratorial, three and you got a movement!

I could use some inspiration. Name a place and a time.

Fur shop?  Hodges bend?  What nights work?

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on February 03, 2014, 09:01:01 PM
Fur shop?  Hodges bend?  What nights work?

Let's let the weather clear out and pick a day/evening next week.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

BKDotCom

Quote from: Conan71 on February 03, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
Doe's has managed to stay there for at least 6-7 years I'm aware of.  No thanks to me, that's for certain.

closer to 11 I think

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on February 04, 2014, 08:27:26 AM
Let's let the weather clear out and pick a day/evening next week.

Wow, I feel so left out.   ;)