State Government at it again - Evolution

[AquaMan]

I hear you T. I once parked my car in a Broken Arrow strip center lot while I made a sales call on one of the retailers. Left the doors unlocked and the window open cause BA was pretty safe back then. When I came back someone had entered my car. Not to steal but to change the radio station to the local religious station. Bizarre. We lead the nation in crazy.

Obama garnered about 31% last election iirc. To jump to 34 is not a big deal, solid or not.

[Red Arrow]

So if God created the heavens and the earth in six days, and rested on the seventh, how long are God's days?

When I was a kid, I was told each of God's days during Creation was 7000 of our present years.  I have no idea where that number came from.

[Teatownclown]

I hear you T. I once parked my car in a Broken Arrow strip center lot while I made a sales call on one of the retailers. Left the doors unlocked and the window open cause BA was pretty safe back then. When I came back someone had entered my car. Not to steal but to change the radio station to the local religious station. Bizarre. We lead the nation in crazy.

Obama garnered about 31% last election iirc. To jump to 34 is not a big deal, solid or not.

That happened to me at Nelson Nissan. I called Bobby to complain and they put me on hold where I was forced to listen to a proselytizer.
Bobby knows better now...

[Townsend]

When I was a kid, I was told each of God's days during Creation was 7000 of our present years.  I have no idea where that number came from.

An active imagination just like most stories.

[carltonplace]

An active imagination just like most stories.

Its a cop out. Why would God stoop to David Blaine type tricks to invent the universe (well specifically the heavens and the earth since everything revolves around the earth). 

[Conan71]

Its a cop out. Why would God stoop to David Blaine type tricks to invent the universe (well specifically the heavens and the earth since everything revolves around the earth). 

I thought everything revolved around David Hasselhoff.  Does it not?

[carltonplace]

I thought everything revolved around David Hasselhoff.  Does it not?

That probably explains why we haven't heard from David Blaine in awhile, he disapeared somewhere in David Hasselhoff.

[dbacks fan]

I thought everything revolved around David Hasselhoff.  Does it not?

Careful, you shouldn't hassel the Hoff. He may call you while he's drunk off his donkey trying to eat a cheeseburger.

[shadows]

There three subject involved with the school teaching the Darwin theory, the books of the Moses and the ministry of Jesus.

The Israelites (Hebrews) is a story told to confirm the origin of their race which is a book within its self.  Jesus has the cloud hanging over his head because the Cult of Israelites that was changing gold with the Romans in the temple and plead for his execution.  This group did not accept Jesus as their savior and even to this day refuses to accept him; which should be told in a single book.  Then there is Darwin's theory composed of extensive world travel gathering information on evolution. He has presented evolution as a fact. The church has conceded that evolution has possibly had its hand in developing the present generations.

It is hard to visualize masses of all the universes that we can see in the night sky and not by limitation of the mind's capacity be able to establish space without boundaries.

We continue to cheat the children if we don't teach the theory in public schools. 

[RecycleMichael]

There three subject involved with the school teaching the Darwin theory, the books of the Moses and the ministry of Jesus.

The Israelites (Hebrews) is a story told to confirm the origin of their race which is a book within its self.  Jesus has the cloud hanging over his head because the Cult of Israelites that was changing gold with the Romans in the temple and plead for his execution.  This group did not accept Jesus as their savior and even to this day refuses to accept him; which should be told in a single book.  Then there is Darwin's theory composed of extensive world travel gathering information on evolution. He has presented evolution as a fact. The church has conceded that evolution has possibly had its hand in developing the present generations.

It is hard to visualize masses of all the universes that we can see in the night sky and not by limitation of the mind's capacity be able to establish space without boundaries.

We continue to cheat the children if we don't teach the theory in public schools. 

He is here all week folks. Don't forget to tip your bartenders and waitresses and drive safely. Good night.

[Hoss]

He is here all week folks. Don't forget to tip your bartenders and waitresses and drive safely. Good night.

"Just don't tip them over...they hate that".

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

[cannon_fodder]

We continue to cheat the children if we don't teach the theory in public schools.  

Teach the biblical theory of creationism or the scientific theory of evolution?

If we are teaching the Judeo-Christian creation myth (God has always been, one day he decided to make the earth, he did in 6 days and took one off, in the process he created people, got mad at them and punished them for thousands of years but promised to some day send someone to make it better, Christians then say he proved how much he loved them by creating a son, who is a different person than God but is also the same God as well as being a magic spirit, who came to earth and was tortured and murdered by humans - so now god can love people again if we do what he tells us) - can we teach some other creation myths?  I'm no expert, but there are some other creation myths we should teach.  Remember, Genesis is as much a myth to other people as their creation story is a myth to you:

Greek - Mother God created the sky to cover herself and the Titans to care for her and then the Titans kind of started their own thing until Zeus kicked their butts and spawned the Olympians.

Babylonian - two super gods had kids, their kids were loud and pissed them off, so they tried to kill their kids, one kid killed his mother and cut her in two... half formed the earth and half formed the heavens.

Egyptian - in a swirling mass of whatever a god willed its genderless self into being - and spat out other gods for company.  Some god went missing, they were found, super god cried for joy... man came from the tears of super god.

Hawai'ian – goddess Pele was wondering the earth and smelled fire.  She wanted to move into the volcano she found but some other god was there.  They got in a fight and chucked fireballs at each other – creating land.  Pele won and still occupies the volcanoes.  The vanquished god lives in caves and tunnels underground.

Hindu – a giant 1000 headed god enveloped the Earth, was sacrificed by other gods, and his body parts created everything on the earth.

Japan - the gods created a man and a woman, they created islands by having the man stick his magic spear into the soft spots of the earth and when he pulled it out it shot out salty substance, they lived on the island, they didn't listen to the gods and were punished, they struggle to make it right – kinda failed, went into the gods realm and fled – thereby dividing god from man forever.

Chinese - a cosmic egg floated for eons, eventually a being was spawned and the egg broke - the yoke fell to earth, the white formed the heavens.


Zoroastrian - a holy mountain was possessed by a spirit, the first animal [a white bull] was killed by the evil spirit, the dead bulls soul went to heaven [the moon] and was purified and came back to form many animals including the first man... who was killed by the evil spirit.  It took 40 years but his soul was purified by the sun and he came back as a rhubarb plant, which split into the first mortal humans.  Who were tricked into worshipping the evil spirit.  They had kids and then ate them (because the evil spirit told them to kill their kids as a test).  Then they had twins - and from those two people, who rejected the false god and worshipped the one true God, came all of humanity (and the Jews idea of worshipping one God)

Norse/Oden myth - in a fire world lived some gods, a magic bull licked other gods into being, they had a kid, who killed an older god - the dead body formed the earth.

New ones are invented all of the time:  

Scientology – the earth existed as a super happy place with people when it got caught up in an intergalactic war with super villain Xeno.  He stuffed bad guys in a volcano in Hawaii and blew them up with atomic weapons.  The evil spirits of these dead aliens attached themselves to people and ruined paradise.  You have to pay scientologists to get rid of them.

Pastafarian – the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe exactly as it appears today billions of years ago.  All evidence of evolution, creation, or anything deviating from this static view is simply the Monster's holy Noodly Appendage messing with the data for reasons beyond our carb fueled minds.


I'm not a scholar on these things, but they are all interesting.  And there is about as much evidence supporting any one of these stories as there is supporting any other.  Religion is not science and science is not religion.  Religion is belief in the supernatural/magic/holy without proof, based on faith.  Science is the abject study of things based only on proof.  Religions die if proved wrong.  Science grows by proving things wrong.

One belongs in a classroom, one does not.  Please keep your religion out of my classrooms and I promise not to insist we teach science in your church.

[shadows]

No society has existed since the naked ape stood up on his hind legs that has not worshiped a god.  The Egyptian in the recording of their history, which some scholars has associated them as a spin-off of ancient India, planned for their journey across the skies.  These cultures of the past have played a role that has been in parallel in the advancing of sciences of which cannot be overlooked in the quest for knowledge. Religion and science are necessary and they should coexist with each other to produce a balanced and uniform society in order for the children of today to cope with the events of the morrow. The building of a brick wall between the two balancing functions by the "You stay in your yard and I'll stay in mine" does no more than create an unbalanced child that is to rule in the morrow..       

[RecycleMichael]

No society has existed since the naked ape stood up on his hind legs that has not worshiped a god.  The Egyptian in the recording of their history, which some scholars has associated them as a spin-off of ancient India, planned for their journey across the skies.  These cultures of the past have played a role that has been in parallel in the advancing of sciences of which cannot be overlooked in the quest for knowledge. Religion and science are necessary and they should coexist with each other to produce a balanced and uniform society in order for the children of today to cope with the events of the morrow. The building of a brick wall between the two balancing functions by the "You stay in your yard and I'll stay in mine" does no more than create an unbalanced child that is to rule in the morrow..       

Decoder ring out...

You know about the Red Hat society and they didn't worship and play naked with apes, but did spin their recordings of "Walk like an Egyption" and songs from the band Journey. We passed some rolls in science class and had a quiz. In gym class I relied on prayer and gravity to do the balance beam and would have done better if I had worn my uniform. I am off to cope with kids building walls around the yard used bone marrow.

[shadows]

Decoder ring out...

I relied on prayer and gravity to do the balance beam and would have done better if I had worn my uniform. I am off to cope with kids building walls around the yard used bone marrow.

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You use the phenomenon of gravity of which the hairless ape is not able to define where ever object on this planet is attached by.  Still you want to rely on the assumption that the creation of such is by a supernatural person and not the refilling of the void of a black hole left in the universe by the explosion of hydrogen in the big bang theory that created our sun and planets. 
Darwin’s theory is based on observation and research but the answers lie beyond
Understanding and taxes the hairless ape’s mind.  If this be true the hydrogen burning that is creating our sun will burn out and the natives of ancient time who worshiped the sun as giver of life was right.  Darwin’s theory is an abstract theory and should be taught in the public schools as possible foundation of learning of our existence.     

 
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