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State Government at it again - Evolution

Started by swake, February 21, 2012, 02:31:53 PM

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cannon_fodder

Shadows:  "crazy talk"

Everyone else:  "Citation needed"

Shadows: "The internets"

Everyone else: "Where on the internets"

Shadows:  "You can find it in 6 hours if you look"


On that basis... I read fourteen articles on the interwebs that said you are totally wrong.  I can't find the citation, but they were really good sources and there are more of them than yours.  I win at the internets.
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TheArtist

Quote from: cannon_fodder on March 03, 2012, 07:36:04 PM
Shadows:  "crazy talk"

Everyone else:  "Citation needed"

Shadows: "The internets"

Everyone else: "Where on the internets"

Shadows:  "You can find it in 6 hours if you look"


On that basis... I read fourteen articles on the interwebs that said you are totally wrong.  I can't find the citation, but they were really good sources and there are more of them than yours.  I win at the internets.

+1
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

heironymouspasparagus

I'm betting this was mainstream until the mutation of less hair started to gain adherents - hairless being a kinky kind of thing for the standards and mores of the day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrichosis

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

shadows

We acclaim we are the creation of a superficial person who spent 7000 years preparing a place for our ancestors then he created a possible 3,000,000,000 other solar systems.  That would be 3,000,000,000 X 7,000 which would equal; my computer won't accept that equation.  Then he built a garden and put our ancestors in and told them to multiply and replenish the earth. They produced I believe 7 boys.  On of the children slew his brother and was ban from the garden into the land where he knew his wife. (Same sex marriage?) Now this was all placed in space that has no boundaries.

For 20 centuries this story has been taught in schools.  Churches have established universities in order to teach it. Is it not logic to teach a story that is based on 20 years of studding of a doctor of a possibly another source of our existence.

Jesus told the disciples in the garden if they had no sword sell their garment and buy one.
This controversy of evolution and religion is bursting out again where next we will be buying swords because Ezekiel in the sixth century BC wrote of measuring heaven and by his dimensions it sure is going to be crowded.     

Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

dbacks fan

Quote from: shadows on March 03, 2012, 10:24:28 PM
We acclaim we are the creation of a superficial person who spent 7000 years preparing a place for our ancestors then he created a possible 3,000,000,000 other solar systems.  That would be 3,000,000,000 X 7,000 which would equal; my computer won't accept that equation.  Then he built a garden and put our ancestors in and told them to multiply and replenish the earth. They produced I believe 7 boys.  On of the children slew his brother and was ban from the garden into the land where he knew his wife. (Same sex marriage?) Now this was all placed in space that has no boundaries.

For 20 centuries this story has been taught in schools.  Churches have established universities in order to teach it. Is it not logic to teach a story that is based on 20 years of studding of a doctor of a possibly another source of our existence.

Jesus told the disciples in the garden if they had no sword sell their garment and buy one.
This controversy of evolution and religion is bursting out again where next we will be buying swords because Ezekiel in the sixth century BC wrote of measuring heaven and by his dimensions it sure is going to be crowded.   


RecycleMichael

Wow shadows. I gotta party with you dude.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Townsend

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/03/04/oklahoma_s_sharia_slayer_endorses_rick_santorum.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow

Oklahoma's Sharia-Slayer Endorses Rick Santorum

QuoteIn the inbox tonight: A list of Rick Santorum's latest endorsements from Oklahoma. High up the list is a nod from Rep. Sally Kern. Come on, you remember Sally Kern! Last year, during a stop in the state, I talked to Kern about her work to pre-emptively ban sharia law.

"When I see things that are happening that I think will weaken our American way of life, I don't like that," she says. "I don't have a problem with people coming over here—why wouldn't people want to come to America, the greatest nation in the world where you have the most opportunities and freedoms? Why wouldn't they want to come over here? But if they're going to come over here, let them become Americans. If they want to hold on to their own cultures, then why—and I hope I don't get in trouble here—why not live in their own countries?"
This was not in the top 50 percentile of controversial things Kern has done or said.


AquaMan

Surely she knows we wouldn't be enjoying authentic Pizza, Mexican Food, Sushi, Thai or a host of other culture's foods and styles had we required that they leave their culture at the shoreline? Right? Or maybe she thinks everyone should wear jeans, eat cheeseburgers and apple pie.
onward...through the fog

Townsend

Quote from: AquaMan on March 05, 2012, 11:11:30 AM
Surely she knows we wouldn't be enjoying authentic Pizza, Mexican Food, Sushi, Thai or a host of other culture's foods and styles had we required that they leave their culture at the shoreline? Right? Or maybe she thinks everyone should wear jeans, eat cheeseburgers and apple pie.

No, she's mentally deficient.

Thanks to people like her, Oklahoma won't even pick the correct loser for president.


custosnox

Quote from: cannon_fodder on February 29, 2012, 06:05:58 PM

Pastafarian – the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe exactly as it appears today billions of years ago.  All evidence of evolution, creation, or anything deviating from this static view is simply the Monster's holy Noodly Appendage messing with the data for reasons beyond our carb fueled minds.

Just to point out, the FSM was a hyperbole in a letter to the Kansas Board of Education to point out a problem with including creationism in the class room. 


Shadows, if you want to understand Darwin's theory, try reading Darwin, not everyone else, particularly On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.  You can find all of his works at http://darwin-online.org.uk/ (hey, looky, a link).  In the theory man did not evolve from ape, nor did ape evolve from man.  Both evolved from a common ancestor.  And no, religion is not required in a society, the growing number of Atheists show that. 

shadows


Thanks for the information custosnox

That is a very informative posting on the Internet that should be taught in the public schools as Darwin's years of research should not be brushed aside.  The use of "COMMON ANCESTOR" leaves open many more questions that will remain unanswered.  As he points out there is much similarity in the embryos as they develop after conception. He leaves to thought of what determines the track the embryo will take to become a part of a specific species within the genetics spiral. 
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Townsend

Tennessee's still in the party with us...

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/13/150577766/war-of-the-worlds-when-science-politics-collide?sc=fb&cc=fp

QuoteRoger Cone is a microbiologist, not a politician. He struggles with a basic truth: For all the scientific acceptance of evolution, many Americans simply don't believe it is factually accurate.

And when Tennessee lawmakers passed a measure allowing teachers to question accepted theories on evolution and climate change in the classroom, Cone acted. He and two other scientists wrote an op-ed in The Tennessean last month opposing the bill, which he says "started out as a backdoor attempt to get creationism, or 'intelligent design,' taught in the schools." He fears it will be another black eye for Tennessee — a throwback to the 1925 Scopes "monkey trial," when teacher John T. Scopes was put on trial for lecturing on Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.


The rest of the article is worth reading.

cannon_fodder

Fwiw, the church of the flying spaghetti monster is an established religion with nonprofit status and followers.  It is no less legitimate than any other religion.  Do its believers REALLY believe the teachings?  Hard to say, but we don't require Christians to answer if they really believe a half man half god half ghost who is the god and also the son of god and the son of a virgin and had magical powers who was killed by his father/god in order to allow those that worship him well enough for not be burned.

The point is the government shouldn't choose which beliefs are crazy and avoid teaching religion in any form, even if that form is the majority.
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guido911

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Quote from: cannon_fodder on April 17, 2012, 09:03:03 PM
Fwiw, the church of the flying spaghetti monster is an established religion with nonprofit status and followers.  It is no less legitimate than any other religion.  Do its believers REALLY believe the teachings?  Hard to say, but we don't require Christians to answer if they really believe a half man half god half ghost who is the god and also the son of god and the son of a virgin and had magical powers who was killed by his father/god in order to allow those that worship him well enough for not be burned.

The point is the government shouldn't choose which beliefs are crazy and avoid teaching religion in any form, even if that form is the majority.

Yawn. Another "keep religion out of government by insulting/bashing Christians" post. My gosh, if only my wife and I were as smart, enlightened, and sophisticated as folks like you. Luckily, I have this bumper sticker to keep me grounded.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln