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Started by guido911, February 28, 2012, 04:03:48 PM

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Townsend

Christian Owned Business Files Federal Lawsuit Over Morning-After Mandate

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/christian-owned-business-files-federal-lawsuit-over-moring-after-mandate/

QuoteChristian owned and operated Hobby Lobby Stores Inc. filed a  lawsuit today in U.S. District Court challenging a mandate in the Obama administration's health care law that requires most employer health insurance plans to provide coverage for contraception and the morning after pill without requiring a co-pay.

There are about 27 lawsuits challenging the mandate, and Hobby Lobby, which owns about 500 arts and crafts stores across the country,  is the largest for-profit business to do so.
Several of the lawsuits filed by nonprofit entities have been dismissed, because the rules governing those entities are undergoing revision and won't take effect until later next year. But Hobby Lobby as a for-profit enterprise, has  to comply with the mandate by January.

"Assuming that a court agrees to hear the case, and doesn't dismiss it on procedural grounds, it will be an early opportunity to hear not only the plaintiffs arguments about why their religious beliefs are burdened but for the government to explain its decision not to exempt these and other employers from the rules," says Robert W. Tuttle, a professor of law and religion at George Washington University Law School.
"Our faith is being challenged by the U.S. government," said Hobby Lobby's founder and CEO David Green in a conference call today.  He said the company opposes having to provide  "abortion causing drugs" that go against his family faith. "We cannot abandon our religious beliefs to comply with the mandate."

The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which  is representing Hobby Lobby Stores,  argues that the Obama administration's policy violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, as well as the Free Exercise Clause of the U.S. Constitution.  "Religious liberty is the birthright of every American whether they are running a business, sitting in a church or operating hospital," said Mark Rienzi, senior counsel at the Becket Fund.
The administration's health care law  exempts only churches and religious orders from the mandate.

Tuttle believes the claim of a for-profit business would  be more difficult to prove, because courts have been generally less sympathetic to claims of religious liberty by commercial entities, but he did note a recent case — Newland v. Sebelius – in which a judge ruled in favor of the plaintiff.

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on September 12, 2012, 03:29:15 PM
No more so than when the screeching right complains when some on here source the aforementioned outlets.  Including your corrected ones.  Not sure why you felt the need to correct them, as they all four lean left.  But then again, I'm never sure of what your point is most of the time.  You might be ADD.

So a black female raising the charge that women and blacks are being used by Democrats to control their message isn't troubling to you?

Check.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on September 12, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Fixed it for you.

But seriously, does it warrant complete ignorance of the story?


A double-take just wasn't enough...had to do a triple-take when I read this comment....

Really??  I mean... REALLY??  Thanks for the laugh-of-the-day!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Quote from: Townsend on September 12, 2012, 03:05:29 PM
Of course.  What's your point?

No point. Just figured this would get some attention. With that said, has anyone seen Fluke filling out a job application for Hobby Lobby?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

And on the subject of Fluke...Dennis Miller goes thermonuclear:


Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

erfalf

"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

erfalf

Quote from: Conan71 on September 13, 2012, 08:58:57 AM
She's an Aunt Tom.  Doesn't count.

It's funny because she said she thought the same thing whenever she saw a black on fox news or something similar.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

guido911

What if you threw a rally and 10 people showed up? Talk bout one's 15 minutes being WAY up...

My favorite quote:

QuoteAshley and Jessica evidently made up one-fifth of the total crowd!

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/21/fluke-ofa-fail-in-pics-if-you-hold-a-rally-and-no-one-shows-up-does-it-make-a-sound/

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

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Quote from: guido911 on September 12, 2012, 11:25:31 PM
And on the subject of Fluke...Dennis Miller goes thermonuclear:



I definitely second the motion - and raise you the "old white guys" insurance paid prescription for viagra.  That costs a whole lot more than some contraceptives.  Back in 2009 it cost $1400 per 100 pills, yet we still get to subsidize that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-42842870/price-of-viagra-has-risen-108-since-launch-100-pills-now-cost-1400/

And I don't really mind to ensure (or insure!) she doesn't have kids - cheapest insurance cost I will ever see.  But I very much mind helping that viagra guy reach the possibility of having more kids!!

I guarantee you Dennis Miller would be spewing a different verbal vomit if they cut off his viagra and he had to pay for it himself!

(Hope this doesn't hit too close to home, guido...)

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 21, 2012, 03:15:11 PM

I definitely second the motion - and raise you the "old white guys" insurance paid prescription for viagra.



Happy Halloween!!!!

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

No, a straw man would be talking about how men can afford Viagra without insurance because they make more money, on average. Bringing up how pills for one gender's sexual health are not covered while pills for another gender's sexual health are covered is not a straw man. It's a direct comparison.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on October 21, 2012, 03:58:19 PM
No, a straw man would be talking about how men can afford Viagra without insurance because they make more money, on average. Bringing up how pills for one gender's sexual health are not covered while pills for another gender's sexual health are covered is not a straw man. It's a direct comparison.

No its not and stop it. If we were talking about sexual dysfunction in women and medication, then we have a comparison. Now, if we were talking about insurance paying for vasectomies and not women BC...
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on October 21, 2012, 04:19:28 PM
No its not and stop it. If we were talking about sexual dysfunction in women and medication

Both are used to treat medical conditions, bucko.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on October 21, 2012, 05:06:02 PM
Both are used to treat medical conditions, bucko.

You obviously don't understand the difference between a coconut and a pineapple.



"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan