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sgrizzle

Quote from: erfalf on March 07, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
So because one man, Issa, held a hearing with leaders of the predominantly catholic organizations (which happen to be most all male, it is what it is) were heard and no women were asked to testify, republicans/conservatives hate all types of people except white males.

Yep I get it, you win.

A very liberal coworkers of mine commented on the recent visit by Herman Cain and JC Watts by saying they were both "a couple of uncle tom ni@@ers."

My wife is from a town in Louisiana where whites are the minority and sometimes treated as such.

An ex-acquaintance of mine was a very liberal native American. He hated all white males, although he married a white woman.

Saying racism belongs to one party or ethnic group is nothing but propaganda.

Hoss

Quote from: sgrizzle on March 08, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
A very liberal coworkers of mine commented on the recent visit by Herman Cain and JC Watts by saying they were both "a couple of uncle tom ni@@ers."

My wife is from a town in Louisiana where whites are the minority and sometimes treated as such.

An ex-acquaintance of mine was a very liberal native American. He hated all white males, although he married a white woman.

Saying racism belongs to one party or ethnic group is nothing but propaganda.

But saying one party or ethnic group puts it out on display more prominently likely isn't.  Does that mean I think you are a racist, Scott?  Surely not.  But members of your party aren't helping these days.  Much like the Democrats in the South during the civil rights movement.

erfalf

Quote from: sgrizzle on March 08, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
A very liberal coworkers of mine commented on the recent visit by Herman Cain and JC Watts by saying they were both "a couple of uncle tom ni@@ers."

My wife is from a town in Louisiana where whites are the minority and sometimes treated as such.

An ex-acquaintance of mine was a very liberal native American. He hated all white males, although he married a white woman.

Saying racism belongs to one party or ethnic group is nothing but propaganda.

Agreed, I always tell everyone that stupidity/racism/intollerence/hate cuts through both sides pretty equally. I just found the video comical. A bunch of lefties spewing some of the most hateful things, telling all the righties how hateful they are. Are you kidding me.

I still don't understand how this perception that the Republicans are only for rich white people got started. I mean, do people read anymore. And last I checked the republican party is made up of a lot more than just rich white guys. For that matter I would estimate that a majority aren't even white, let alone white men. Isn't it crazy how these perceptions get started. In fact believe it or not, there are women (real women) that believe that contraception should not be used. CRAZY. The great thing is, is that a conservative just won't buy it. Oh the hate.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Hoss

Quote from: erfalf on March 08, 2012, 10:58:43 AM
Agreed, I always tell everyone that stupidity/racism/intollerence/hate cuts through both sides pretty equally. I just found the video comical. A bunch of lefties spewing some of the most hateful things, telling all the righties how hateful they are. Are you kidding me.

I still don't understand how this perception that the Republicans are only for rich white people got started. I mean, do people read anymore. And last I checked the republican party is made up of a lot more than just rich white guys. For that matter I would estimate that a majority aren't even white, let alone white men. Isn't it crazy how these perceptions get started. In fact believe it or not, there are women (real women) that believe that contraception should not be used. CRAZY. The great thing is, is that a conservative just won't buy it. Oh the hate.

But the appearance of them is that they capitulate to the wants of the well off.  Where do you think that all got started?  Do I know that there are more than just rich white guys in the Republican party?  Sure I do.  But do those rich people give the impression that they are pulling the strings in the party?

They do.

Perception.  It's a bi**h.

sgrizzle

Quote from: Hoss on March 08, 2012, 10:38:53 AM
But saying one party or ethnic group puts it out on display more prominently likely isn't.  Does that mean I think you are a racist, Scott?  Surely not.  But members of your party aren't helping these days.  Much like the Democrats in the South during the civil rights movement.

I'm a white republican south tulsa southern baptist. Loud morons claim to speak for me from every angle.

Townsend

Quote from: sgrizzle on March 08, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
I'm a white republican south tulsa southern baptist. Loud morons claim to speak for me from every angle.

If you hadn't threatened to raise taxes you could've been one of the loud morons.

Teatownclown

Alf, I won't engage in personal attacks. Please back up your demographic touting because you seem to be wrong. The GOP/Teabagger party is mainly white men. But prove it's not. Ok? At least you are a consistent with the party that spews such lies.

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RecycleMichael

Quote from: erfalf on March 08, 2012, 10:58:43 AM
And last I checked the republican party is made up of a lot more than just rich white guys. For that matter I would estimate that a majority aren't even white, let alone white men.

A fascinating 2008 article on demographic changes in political views over time...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/the_incredible_shrinking_repub.html

Married individuals still make up a large majority of the electorate, whites are still close to 80 percent of the electorate, and Christians are still over 80 percent of the electorate. However, the combined impact of the changes illustrated in Figure 1 has been enormous. Married white Christians have gone from close to 80 percent of the electorate in the 1950s to just over 40 percent of the electorate in the first decade of the 21st century. Moreover, the data displayed in Figure 2 show that the decline in married white Christians has been even more drastic among younger Americans. The proportion of married white Christians among voters under the age of 30 has plummeted from almost 80 percent in the 1950s to less than 20 percent in the first decade of the 21st century.

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These changes in the social composition of the American electorate are politically significant because married white Christians now constitute the core of the Republican electoral coalition. Not only are married white Christians more likely to support the GOP than other Americans, but, as the data displayed in Figure 3 show, the gap between these two groups has widened from less than 10 percentage points in the 1950s to 25 percentage points in the first decade of the 21st century.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Teatownclown

Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2012, 12:43:38 PM


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Because your job is keeping us clean, which you do on a grand scale, I'm not about to teach you how to dirty things up. Besides, loaded images was my big deal back in the 60's and 70's before Al Gore's internet divided the community of man.


nathanm

Quote from: erfalf on March 07, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
So because one man, Issa, held a hearing with leaders of the predominantly catholic organizations (which happen to be most all male, it is what it is) were heard and no women were asked to testify, republicans/conservatives hate all types of people except white males.

I don't think anybody said Issa or anybody else "hates" women? It is rather illustrative that Issa would call a bunch of men and no women to talk about women's health issues. Not of hate, but of complete ignorance of gender issues.

Maybe it's just me, but the qualitative difference between the video of Schulz, Olbermann, and Maher is that they didn't spend 10 minutes hurling epithets and then go back the next day to do it again. A difference of degree, perhaps, but still a pretty important one. One indicates a poor choice of words. The other indicates a poor choice of ideas. (to me; feel free to disagree)
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

So can we drop the whole Ms. Fluke is not a public figure argument. If I had to guess, she probably believes that the Rush comment is the greatest thing that ever happened to her, ie the ends justify the means.

While we're at it, let's drop the whole "war on women" meme as well. It is dishonest. First, it could be argued that in many cases it is just as much a war on men('s pocketbooks). The whole arguments centers around who pays for it not whether or not you can get it. Second, if it was a war on women, I would have to assume that no women are left in the republican party. Or are republican women the equivalent of what liberals would call an uncle tom? Completely ridiculous.

The thing that baffles me about liberals, at least the ones on MSNBC/CNN/ABC/CBS, is they don't believe in free will. If you are a woman, you should think this way, a black this way, hispanic, asian, tall, short, the list goes on.

Who is the racist again? Who is coming up with the perception? You, or do you just take the bait, hook, line & sinker?

Ok, rant over for today.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

RecycleMichael

Quote from: erfalf on March 14, 2012, 07:06:18 AM
The thing that baffles me about liberals...

The one thing that baffles me about conservatives is that they believe that they decide everything. They know how everybody else feels about everything and what they should do or say.

You or no one else can justify the abuse by Rush Limbaugh by saying it is all about your wallet. Rush was wrong and you are too. 
Power is nothing till you use it.

erfalf

Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 14, 2012, 07:38:39 AM
The one thing that baffles me about conservatives is that they believe that they decide everything. They know how everybody else feels about everything and what they should do or say.

You or no one else can justify the abuse by Rush Limbaugh by saying it is all about your wallet. Rush was wrong and you are too. 

Never said I was justifying Rush. You reached the wrong conclusion. I was pointing out that libs use the argument I mentioned to justify attacking the likes of Palin & Bachman and such.

I don't know how they feel, but I know what they say. And it is pretty clear that the sources I mentioned feel exactly as I described.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Townsend

Quote from: erfalf on March 14, 2012, 08:29:24 AM
justify attacking the likes of Palin & Bachman and such.

Any disagreement is an "attack" to you and yours.

Newt said he was being attacked by the "elites" in the press.  Santorum is being attacked by the "establishment".

Palin and Bachman are being attacked by the people who are made to cringe by the masses of lemmings who follow them.

erfalf

Quote from: Townsend on March 14, 2012, 08:37:35 AM
Any disagreement is an "attack" to you and yours.

Newt said he was being attacked by the "elites" in the press.  Santorum is being attacked by the "establishment".

Palin and Bachman are being attacked by the people who are made to cringe by the masses of lemmings who follow them.

Heck, I've got beefs with all of those you mentioned, but you know good and well I wasn't referring to legit arguments with the above women. I would hope that you would back me up when I have legitimate disagreements with President Obama and not just assume it is because of race or I think he's a muslim or whatever.

The video linked is what I am talking about. I know it's from MRC, but it was the only place I could find it. I saw it last night on MSNBC. The condescension for women that have an affinity to conservatism is astounding.

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/msnbc-political-analyst-alabama-women-voting-santorum-really-hurts-me
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper