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"If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon."

Started by Teatownclown, March 26, 2012, 11:59:06 AM

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Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Teatownclown

QuoteZimmerman Attorney Seeks Donations From People Who Also Would Have Shot Trayvon Martin

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/05/511620/zimmerman-attorney-seeks-donations-from-people-who-also-would-have-shot-trayvon-martin/

Today, Florida Judge Kenneth Lester set a new bond of $1 million for George Zimmerman. Lester said that Zimmerman, whose bond was originally set at just $150,000, was "manipulating the system" and, but for GPS monitoring, "would have fled the United States with at least $130,000" that he failed to diclose to the court.
In a posting to his website after the new bond was announced, Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara sought more donations from people who also would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin:
For those who have given in the past, for those who have thought about giving, for those who feel Mr. Zimmerman was justified in his actions, for those who feel they would do the same if they were in Mr. Zimmerman's shoes, for those that think Mr. Zimmerman has been treated unfairly by the media, for those who feel Mr. Zimmerman has been falsely accused as a racist, for those who feel this case is an affront to their constitutional rights — now is the time to show your support.
O'Mara said Zimmerman would pay an additional $85,000 to a bail bondsman to secure his release but, combined with other expenses, would wipe out his current legal defense fund.
Previously, Zimmerman apologized to Trayvon Martin's parents for shooting and killing their son. He said that he thought Martin was older and did not know if he was armed.

Conan, sent your check yet? Guido? Gassie?

Conan71

Nice way for the pinkos at soros.com to spin the headline.

They managed to cobble:

"for those who would have also shot Trayvon Martin"

from:

Quote"for those who feel Mr. Zimmerman was justified in his actions, for those who feel they would do the same if they were in Mr. Zimmerman's shoes, for those that think Mr. Zimmerman has been treated unfairly by the media, for those who feel Mr. Zimmerman has been falsely accused as a racist,"

Have some young punk you don't know break your nose and beat your head into the pavement and think about how you would react before you give in to the obvious dooshbaggery of moon bat websites.  Now that more physical evidence has been revealed it looks a whole lot more like Zimmerman may have been justified in defending himself. 

I still don't agree with him pursuing Martin, but Martin didn't have to start beating on Zimmerman either.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

AquaMan

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Quote from: Conan71 on July 06, 2012, 08:42:15 AM
Nice way for the pinkos at soros.com to spin the headline.

They managed to cobble:

"for those who would have also shot Trayvon Martin"

from:

Have some young punk you don't know break your nose and beat your head into the pavement and think about how you would react before you give in to the obvious dooshbaggery of moon bat websites.  Now that more physical evidence has been revealed it looks a whole lot more like Zimmerman may have been justified in defending himself.  

I still don't agree with him pursuing Martin, but Martin didn't have to start beating on Zimmerman either.
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Yeah, they spun the intro to the post, but it wasn't by much.

What you leave out of your analysis is the surrounding facts. Do you think the kid might have had concerns about the manner in which Zimmerman approached him? Think this and countless other similar stories might have come to mind? http://gma.yahoo.com/mickey-shunick-case-police-charge-sexual-offender-murder-072018344--abc-news-topstories.html

A high school kid being followed by an adult in a car who was badgering him and pretending to be a cop, who then jumped out of his car and started towards the kid. Whether the gun was visible doesn't even matter. Of course, you defend yourself with zeal. Break his nose, poke his eye, whatever. The one thing my father impressed on me is that if a fight is imminent, and you're concerned about being outsized, outgunned or have limited egress available....make the first punch and make it count.
onward...through the fog

DolfanBob

Ya that's why I start every conversation with a question of aggression. "You got a problem?" No. "Now you do"
I believe that's what was quoted him saying.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

AquaMan

Quote from: DolfanBob on July 06, 2012, 11:02:22 AM
Ya that's why I start every conversation with a question of aggression. "You got a problem?" No. "Now you do"
I believe that's what was quoted him saying.

Him being?
onward...through the fog

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

AquaMan

What would you say? "Good morning sir. Why, may I ask, are you dogging me in your car and asking me questions about my presence when you have not identified yourself as a person of authority over my behavior?"

Sorry, if I'm a teenager in that situation I'm more likely to follow my fathers advice. More likely I would have told him to "'f-off".
onward...through the fog

DolfanBob

Even your F-Off is still not trying to act like a Bad A$$ and threatening him or anyone else with violence.
More like a thug than a innocent young man. And look where his Father and your training got him.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on July 06, 2012, 12:33:54 PM
Martin GZ

You wish that Zimmeretard will get off....he will be imprisoned. The only question now is for how long.



AquaMan

Quote from: DolfanBob on July 06, 2012, 01:27:45 PM
Even your F-Off is still not trying to act like a Bad A$$ and threatening him or anyone else with violence.
More like a thug than a innocent young man. And look where his Father and your training got him.

Ever been in that situation? It saved my donkey many times. Funny how bullies crumple when faced with resolute defiance. Unless they have a gun and you don't I guess.

What would you have had the kid do?
a. Just keep walking.
b. Call a friend or police
c. Stand your ground
d. Explain that you're sorry for being black and wearing a hoodie in a private walled off community that has been victimized by petty theft and burglaries.

He did the first three.
onward...through the fog

Teatownclown

Zimmerman made bail. Well, he didn't. His bigot backers did....

Townsend

This has "Casey Anthony'd".

No matter how it turns out, no one's going to learn anything from this except for the people directly involved.

If the national news agencies stopped bringing it up, it'd be forgotten in da...ooo, look, a pretty bird.

AquaMan

He is in a tight position. I don't think his act was that of a racist, but that race was truly a factor. Had he been a white kid wearing a sweatshirt this doesn't happen. Had he followed police advice, its a mere footnote.

A friend of mine was a security guard for 15years and thinks Zimmerman was poorly trained or had no training at all. He thinks his response to the kid was way out of line. Surveillance and contact with authorities would have been the proper behavior. If the community knowingly allowed this guy with little or no training to provide an armed security function, I would hold them responsible as well.
onward...through the fog

heironymouspasparagus

At best, Zimmerman was an idiot.

And it is likely worse than that...

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.