3 dead, 2 injured in series of shootings

[Jammie]

The senior England's (Carl) alleged killer was never brought to trial (black on white violence) so that probably was grating on him as the second anniversary of his father's death approached.
I cant remember any "we're coming for you" press conferences in that case, though.

Today I read a story that stated that his father wasn't actually murdered by a black man. England's sister was dating someone who had a scuffle with the black man and there was a gun involved and it went off and that's how his father was killed. It sounded more like a negligent accident then outright murder. Even though the outcome was the same, the brutality and malice weren't there. In fact, the story said that he'd be either up for parole or released soon.

For some reason, I thought it was a story on a link that was somewhere on this thread. Now I'm not so sure.

[patric]

Today I read a story that stated that his father wasn't actually murdered by a black man. England's sister was dating someone who had a scuffle with the black man and there was a gun involved and it went off and that's how his father was killed. It sounded more like a negligent accident then outright murder. Even though the outcome was the same, the brutality and malice weren't there. In fact, the story said that he'd be either up for parole or released soon.

I see more similarities to the fraudulent-stock-trader-turned-Army-Sgt (who just saw a fiend shot) going out and massacring Afghan civilians as a twisted mechanism for dealing with grief, than I do with some serial sniper.
In any case, the father's death will have to eventually be addressed for us to understand any of this.

It's also a damn shame race seemed to be a preoccupation in the motive, but at least we were not hearing the phrase "no-snitch culture" being used this time around.

Meanwhile, CNN steps in it:

[Hoss]

I see more similarities to the fraudulent-stock-trader-turned-Army-Sgt (who just saw a fiend shot) going out and massacring Afghan civilians as a twisted mechanism for dealing with grief, than I do with some serial sniper.
In any case, the father's death will have to eventually be addressed for us to understand any of this.

It's also a damn shame race seemed to be a preoccupation in the motive, but at least we were not hearing the phrase "no-snitch culture" being used this time around.

Meanwhile, CNN steps in it:

I just don't understand the need for someone of her stature in journalism to have to do that, even WITH the disclaimer before she said it.  That's like rubbing salt in the wound for some.

But I guess none of us ever said any of the cable news media outlets were responsible.

I've heard other reporters get their point across without having to say either word.

[Conan71]

Doesn't sound like the father was murdered, but rather killed in an act of self-defense even though his killer seemed to have instigated the incident.

Zimmerman, anyone?

[swake]

Doesn't sound like the father was murdered, but rather killed in an act of self-defense even though his killer seemed to have instigated the incident.

Zimmerman, anyone?

Well, except for the father was armed and beating the guy with a stick.

I just don't get this, you beat a guy trying to break into your apartment with a bat, he slinks off telling you he's going to get a gun. You have a buddy come over and you go and look for the guy that just told you he was getting a gun. You can't help stupid sometimes.

Call the police people, good lord.

[sgrizzle]

FYI, this is the 2nd most pupular comment on the story on CNN right now:

civility1st

I've never been to Tulsa, and I don't know the history of Tulsa. But from what I can tell, it took less than 24 hrs for the people of Tulsa to find two men who killed three people and tried to kill two more - and told police where to find them. And now, the people of Tulsa are asleep in their beds. They are not marching or rioting or writing hateful comments on a website.

They aren't arguing about how Cherokee or how white these men are. They aren't lining up to defend them because they shot black people, or lining up to say that if they shot black people they must be white.

It looks to me like people in Tulsa put people into two groups, but not into the two groups being discussed here. It looks to me like people in Tulsa think the two groups of people are those who break laws and those who don't. I think they are on to something with that idea.

[carltonplace]

I hope this hate-filled hillbilly doesn't give Turley a bad name.

[patric]

FYI, this is the 2nd most pupular comment on the story on CNN right now:

It's a shame life isnt that simplistic.

Im taking bets on who shows up first, Rev. Sharpton to calm everybody down, or Phelp's Westboro cult to tell everyone how much God hates them.

[Conan71]

It's a shame life isnt that simplistic.

Im taking bets on who shows up first, Rev. Sharpton to calm everybody down, or Phelp's Westboro cult to tell everyone how much God hates them.

$harpton won't show up to calm anyone down.  That's not what makes and keeps him and his cohort Rev. Jacka$$ so relevant.

[custosnox]

It's a shame life isnt that simplistic.

Im taking bets on who shows up first, Rev. Sharpton to calm everybody down, or Phelp's Westboro cult to tell everyone how much God hates them.

and looks like Sharpton takes the money http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Rev-Al-Sharpton-plans-to-visit-Tulsa/3JzgoD3-gU6ZEf9Q7vfM2w.cspx

[Conan71]

I hope Rev. $harpton speaks a message of peace and reconciliation when he's here and compliments our police and prosecutor for their hard work in arresting the two accused so quickly.

But I doubt that's going to be his message.

[Teatownclown]

I hope Rev. $harpton speaks a message of peace and reconciliation when he's here and compliments our police and prosecutor for their hard work in arresting the two accused so quickly.

But I doubt that's going to be his message.

Al and Jesse and Van speak up against prejudice and discrimination. I know that bugs the sh!t out of you....

[nathanm]

Al and Jesse and Van speak up against prejudice and discrimination. I know that bugs the sh!t out of you....

You know, TTC, it's completely understandable. Due to the (relative) lack of overt and public racism, it's hard to believe people when they talk about it as if it were still the 1960s. The latent racism in the criminal justice system is usually easy to overlook, for example. It took me a long time to "get" the concept of privilege and how it is I came to have it and others didn't.

NSFW, so not embedded: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY

[custosnox]

Al and Jesse and Van speak up against prejudice and discrimination. I know that bugs the sh!t out of you....

I have noticed that those that bring racism into things fastest and the loudest tend to be the most racist

[Gaspar]

I hope Rev. $harpton speaks a message of peace and reconciliation when he's here and compliments our police and prosecutor for their hard work in arresting the two accused so quickly.

But I doubt that's going to be his message.

I'm sure he will.  That's his purpose as a Christian leader.

Let the healing begin!