Mitt Romney - prep school bully

[guido911]

patric...they don't get it. Their political blinders keep them from seeing what a creep Romney is.

I agree with you. Mistreating the family pet is a terrible thing. Abusing this classmate is a terrible thing.

There is something wrong with Romney.

We get it RM. Romney screws up. Worse thing ever. Obama screws up. Kids will be kids. And we know what's wrong with Romney, he's running against Obama. Just like we knew what was wrong with Obama 4 years ago (liar, campaign cheat, race baiter). He was running against Hillary. Now, a few years ago, I read something. What was it?  Oh yes.

Please try and discuss these politicians with a little respect, FOTD. Your attacks have no place on this forum. Please.

Take it to the alley.

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=9355.45

[Teatownclown]

We get it RM. Romney screws up. Worse thing ever. Obama screws up. Kids will be kids. And we know what's wrong with Romney, he's running against Obama. Just like we knew what was wrong with Obama 4 years ago (liar, campaign cheat, race baiter). He was running against Hillary. Now, a few years ago, I read something. What was it?  Oh yes.

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=9355.45

Ha! You're pathetic Gwee.... the highlighted words makes you wonder if Potus Obama is not playing from the Nixon play book. This FOTD poster appears to know what he talks about. Where'd Chix Little and Homie end up?

[guido911]

Where'd Chix Little and Homie end up?

They didn't become dumb@ssed dooshbags by changing their names.

[Teatownclown]

FOTD was exiled....

Those other two must  have found their exit....

[RecycleMichael]

We get it RM. Romney screws up. Worse thing ever. Obama screws up. Kids will be kids. And we know what's wrong with Romney, he's running against Obama.

I think it is impossible for you to read anything about Romney without instantly changing the topic to be about Obama. That is really sad.

Remind me not to have you represent me in court. If I was accused of running a red light, your defense would be that other people run red lights too.

[guido911]

I think it is impossible for you to read anything about Romney without instantly changing the topic to be about Obama. That is really sad.

Remind me not to have you represent me in court. If I was accused of running a red light, your defense would be that other people run red lights too.

I think the better defense would not allow you to testify because the jury would only see this  :

[RecycleMichael]

Attacking me for writing about Obama four years ago? Again, you obviously can't defend Romney so now you just attack me. You really need to learn to discuss issues better.

Mitt Romney and another student held down a boy and cut his hair off. It was inexcusable. The boy who helped him said he felt terrible about it. When questioned, Romney says he didn't remember, then said he didn't do it because the boy was gay.

How does this have anything to do with Obama or anything I wrote four years ago?

Try hard. I just know you can answer this.

[swake]

Mitt Romney and another student held down a boy and cut his hair off. It was inexcusable. The boy who helped him said he felt terrible about it. When questioned, Romney says he didn't remember, then said he didn't do it because the boy was gay.

And giggled while he said it

[Conan71]

Attacking me for writing about Obama four years ago? Again, you obviously can't defend Romney so now you just attack me. You really need to learn to discuss issues better.

Mitt Romney and another student held down a boy and cut his hair off. It was inexcusable. The boy who helped him said he felt terrible about it. When questioned, Romney says he didn't remember, then said he didn't do it because the boy was gay.

How does this have anything to do with Obama or anything I wrote four years ago?

Try hard. I just know you can answer this.

Can't defend Obama's record so you have to attack his opponent by going back 40+ plus years to find something you think others might find objectionable?

Why are you making such a big deal out of a youthful indiscretion which happened 40+ years ago?  It doesn't matter to you that Obama was a pothead in high school, why would it matter to you what Romney did in high school?  How would you like it if you were hounded about stupid things you did in school?  We all did stupid smile, it doesn't define who we are now.

With millions still out of work, I think it's important we look past what sort of stupid smile someone did in high school to how well-equipped they are to deal with the economy, healthcare, foreign relations, etc.  Are you afraid he's going to hold down Putin and shave his back in front of the cameras?

[guido911]

Attacking me for writing about Obama four years ago? Again, you obviously can't defend Romney so now you just attack me. You really need to learn to discuss issues better.

Mitt Romney and another student held down a boy and cut his hair off. It was inexcusable. The boy who helped him said he felt terrible about it. When questioned, Romney says he didn't remember, then said he didn't do it because the boy was gay.

How does this have anything to do with Obama or anything I wrote four years ago?

Try hard. I just know you can answer this.

Everything is on the table, and in this case, it's your credibility. Folks in here are fond of saying to me, "I wouldn't hire you as my lawyer because...". Assuming of course I would accept you as a client (haha), a similar thing can be said listening to the opinions of full time political operatives who happen to be persons occupying positions in this community. You have employees and a voice in this town on matters some might find important. Do you want to be known as a person with some integrity and consistency or just a hacky band wagoner? That's what it looks like when the guy you were tearing a new one for lying and cheating less than four years ago suddenly has the moral high ground over a person who ALLEGEDLY did something 40-50 years ago. Heck, was Obama even in kindergarten when that event went down?

Oh, and please get past the "attack"/victim BS. You went after me personally/professionally too.

[RecycleMichael]

I was wrong about you. You obviously can't or won't defend Romney's behavior . Go ahead and write about me and my thoughts about Obama four years ago.

I am honestly sad for you. You are somehow forced to accept a flawed candidate and your only way to help that candidate is to bad mouth his opponent and any supporter.

There are many wonderful republicans in America. I think locally republicans have been great leaders as councilors, commissioners, mayors, state reps, etc. The belief of the republican party of limited goverment and personal responsibility are simple and beautiful truths. I have to say that most of my closest friends are republicans. I got my career because a republican mayor inspired me many years ago.

Then look at Romney. He is completely out of touch with the average American. Growing up the wealthy son of the president of a car company and governor gave him passes for bad behavior. While most of us had early jobs like waiting tables or construction, he bought and sold companies, sometimes wrecking them if needed be to make a profit. His top achievement as governor was creating a health care system requiring everyone to have insurance. Because the biggest criticism of Obama's presidency is ObamaCare, even that campaign issue is softened when Romney is the nominee.

Romney doesn't inspire us to be better Americans.  You don't see him as anything but someone different than Obama. In the choice between the two of them, I choose, and I believe America will choose, Obama

[guido911]

Not interested in defending Romney on this because I do not give a sh!t about this stupid story. I wasn't even born when this crap happened. Your obsession over it is what is truly sad. Sheesh. The guy is over 35 and U.S. citizen, raised a family, has employs/does employ a sh!t ton more people than you (and Obama before running for anything), and is an experienced businessman and leader. He's qualified and can do the job. Anyway, you wanting to be taken seriously after your massive flip flop on Obama is also what is sad.

With all that said, I have loooonnnngggg been a proponent of giving a loud mouth enough rope to hang themselves. Romney has "bad behavior", is "flawed", and doesn't inspire huh? Well, let's take a look at that:

While water temperatures were a balmy 75 degrees, the deepening darkness obscured other boaters' vision -- prompting the victims' terrified howls as they were buzzed by other vessels cruising in the entrance to Wolfeboro Bay.

Chasing fleeting glimpses of "bobbling heads" in the water, the Romney trio arrived on their two Jet Skis to find three women and three men wearing lifejackets they hadn't even had time to buckle.

The governor pulled the two younger women aboard his three-seater Jet Ski and zoomed back to shore, while his sons helped the mother of the family onto their vehicle.

In the middle of the rescue, the governor actually took a dunking himself -- thrown off the Jet Ski as one anxious boater scrambled aboard and tipped the craft off-balance.

The rescuing Romneys also managed to snatch the family dog, McKenzie, from a watery grave -- grabbing the Scottish terrier first because it was the only passenger without a lifejacket.

http://www.dailynewstranscript.com/news/x1128483358?zc_p=0#axzz1l9jpsMrS

My gosh, he even saved the dog (no word on whether he ate it later  ) Or there's this:

As we reported then, based on contemporary news reports, the girl sneaked away on July 6, 1996, to go to a rave party in New York City, where she took the drug Ecstasy. She had told her parents she was playing tennis. When she didn't return, Boston-based Bain Capital, where Romney was founder and CEO, essentially shut down to help search for Gay's 14-year-old daughter Melissa. Bain Capital's 50 employees went to New York, where they convinced more than 200 other people to help search the streets for two days. They printed and passed out fliers. Romney clearly had a leading role in the company's operations, but news reports from the time also said other Bain partners helped coordinate the search effort...


By all accounts, the effort by Bain employees was central to the effort to locate the girl, and Romney reportedly played a significant role in that effort. We give the account now circulating a rating of True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jan/30/chain-email/viral-internet-story-says-mitt-romney-helped-locat/

Yeah, saving lives makes people flawed and uninspiring.

edited. The guy isn't perfect. Just get some damned perspective.

[AquaMan]

Then what is the purpose of excelling in high school or college? If it is all just "high school" smile, or immature young people smile, then why should we pay any attention to the positive accomplishments of that time period? Remember, at 18 there are Romney's and Obama's serving in the military and holding down reponsible jobs. High school punk one year, responsible young adult the next. Do you think that a year earlier when Romney held down a gay and sheared his hair or harassed a gay guy in class that a year later he is substantially different? Or that Obama's youthful indiscretions of smoking a joint negate his successes from that time period? His penchant for exploring new experiences, of intellectual curiosity suddenly disappears a year later? If so, you need to discount all of their successes and heroism at that age.

The serious truth is that few people change the framework of their personalities after the age of 3-5 years old. By that time the way you view the world and how you process information, socialize, received or give love, learn, even your preference for politics is pretty much set. Your parents and the environment you were first nurtured in setup your framework. Everything after that is fine tuning.

I would much rather support a man who smoked a joint in high school to one who bullied people in high school. But then that's just me.

[Hoss]

[RecycleMichael]

http://swampland.time.com/2012/05/11/bully-pulpit-second-thoughts/?xid=rss-topstories

Bully Pulpit Second ThoughtsBy Joe Klein

I fear that I went too easy on Mitt Romney with regard to his high school bullying escapades. It's not the incident itself that troubles me — though it was, obviously, outrageous and disgraceful — so much as his current response: He doesn't remember it. This is patent nonsense. How could he not remember it? Obviously he remembers it, or he wouldn't have been so quick to issue his blanket apology yesterday for any and all hurt he may have caused at Cranbrook.  And this transparent fudge once again raises questions about his character.

It comes during the same week that he claims credit for saving the auto industry, even though he opposed the bailout that made possible the structured bankruptcy he favored. It comes the same week that he expresses his opposition to gay marriage, even though he promised to be a more aggressive proponent of gay rights than Ted Kennedy when he ran for the Senate in 1994 — of course, it's possible that Romney has evolved in the opposite direction as President Obama, and most Americans, on this issue, but I doubt it. It seems a day can't go by without some Romney embarrassment or bald-faced reversal of a former position.

I'm still waiting for the moment when Romney actually tells the truth about something difficult. He could have said, "You know, I've been troubled by the Cranbrook episode for most of my life, and I feel relieved, in a way, that it's come out now. I did a really stupid and terrible thing. Teenage boys sometimes do such things and deserve to be punished for them. What I most regret is that I never apologized to John and won't be able to now that he's gone, but let me apologize to his family and friends. Bullying is unacceptable under any circumstances. It is especially unacceptable when prejudice — against one's race, ethnicity or sexual orientation — is involved. If elected President, I will try to atone for my teenage behavior by campaigning against bullying all across this country. What I did back then should be an example of how not to behave. I hope we can all learn from this. I know I have."

Instead, Romney has a near perfect record of cowardice, obfuscation and downright lies. It shows enormous disrespect for the intelligence of the public.