I Can Wear My Cowboy Holster

[custosnox]

No idea, and purely anecdotal.  Think it won't happen in the future just because you never heard of it in the past?  I'd never heard of a school yard shooting until 1989 or so and that brought about the Clinton "assault rifle bans".

Open carry is entirely the wrong message to send to those who don't value the 2nd amendment like you and I do.

So now we should outlaw anything that could possibly end badly despite no history of it?

[TheArtist]

   Just my two cents.  Whoooo cares and what difference is it going to really make?  Personally I haven't been paying attention to this story or thread very much, but don't understand why there is even a story here.  I have stayed in states that have open carry laws and saw people openly carrying guns.  It was no big deal, just became part of the background and "costume" of the person like someone wearing a hat and boots.

[carltonplace]

I think it's great. Mary Fallin understands the right to carry, the bad guys will always have the guns, why not the good guys too? Tell ya one thing a group of thugs who sees someone walking in a alley way with a holdstered fire arm will think twice about robbing or attacking that person- the thugs will move on to a more easy target- someone who is not with a firearm. Thank you Mary- Oklahoma now joins some 20+ other states that allow open carry.

I am so relieved that the 25 alleyways in Tulsa will now be safe for the dozen of people that traverse them every year. Thank you Mary Fallin! Thank you for ignoring or not understanding statistics and taking care of the things that really matter.

[nathanm]

When do we legalize automated machine gun turrets? 

[custosnox]

When do we legalize automated machine gun turrets? 

They are legal, as long as you have the proper license.  I really need to set up that nest in preparation for the Zombie Apocalypse.

[guido911]

I am so relieved that the 25 alleyways in Tulsa will now be safe for the dozen of people that traverse them every year. Thank you Mary Fallin! Thank you for ignoring or not understanding statistics and taking care of the things that really matter.

Can you describe and link those statistics you are referring to?

[carltonplace]

Can you describe and link those statistics you are referring to?

This one for example?
EDUCATION RANKINGS: MATH AND SCIENCE


or this one?
FEMALE INCARCERATION RATE
OKLAHOMA
http://www.doc.state.ok.us/offenders/ocjrc/94/940650c.htm
Year # Incarcerated at Year End Rate per 100,000 Population
1988 731 23.61 3,122,000
1989 900 28.73 3,133,000
1990 1,058 33.64 3,145,000
1991 1,236 39.15 3,157,000
NATIONAL
Year # Incarcerated at Year End Rate per 100,000 Population
1988 32,691 13.30 245,807,000
1989 40,646 16.37 248,239,000
1990 43,845 17.63 248,709,813
1991 47,691 18.91 252,177,000

[guido911]

This one for example?
EDUCATION RANKINGS: MATH AND SCIENCE

I don't get the linkage between poor education and open carry statistics. You were talking about alleyways being safer. What does Oklahoma doing poorly in math and science have to do with that? Anyway, interesting that Minnesota is in the "well above average" category and is a licensed open carry state. And look at Indiana and Virginia.



http://www.opencarry.org/opencarry.html

[Townsend]

I don't get the linkage between poor education and open carry statistics. You were talking about alleyways being safer. What does Oklahoma doing poorly in math and science have to do with that? Anyway, interesting that Minnesota is in the well above average category and is an open carry state.

I think he was referring to the Governor's performance on education.

[guido911]

I think he was referring to the Governor's performance on education.

I think you are right. But what does that have to do with wearing a cowboy holster? If the connection is that we a dumber state because of CC or open carry, again, so what? Is the new gun law going to make us even dumber or is this a straw man argument that our state is not focused on more important things...

[Hoss]

I think you are right. But what does that have to do with wearing a cowboy holster? If the connection is that we a dumber state because of CC or open carry, again, so what? Is the new gun law going to make us even dumber or is this a straw man argument that our state is not focused on more important things...

Maybe because it's not?

[carltonplace]

I think you are right. But what does that have to do with wearing a cowboy holster? If the connection is that we a dumber state because of CC or open carry, again, so what? Is the new gun law going to make us even dumber or is this a straw man argument that our state is not focused on more important things...

I was originally responding to sauer's assertion that alleyways (I guess it's a film noir visual) are safer thanks to Mary Fallin and the new Open Carry Law. Tulsa isn't really teeming with alley ways and the alley ways that I frequent are normally devoid of human beings and gun weilding thugs. If as sauer eludes the point of OC is to clean up the alley ways by visibly arming all of the good guys and have them patrol those alleys vigilante style then at least the alley ways wont be empty any longer. I thank Mary Fallin for taking care of our alley way problem and I apply heavy sarcasm that this alley way problem is at the top of the list of issues to contend with.

[Hoss]

I was originally responding to sauer's assertion that alleyways (I guess it's a film noir visual) are safer thanks to Mary Fallin and the new Open Carry Law. Tulsa isn't really teeming with alley ways and the alley ways that I frequent are normally devoid of human beings and gun weilding thugs. If as sauer eludes the point of OC is to clean up the alley ways by visibly arming all of the good guys and have them patrol those alleys vigilante style then at least the alley ways wont be empty any longer. I thank Mary Fallin for taking care of our alley way problem and I apply heavy sarcasm that this alley way problem is at the top of the list of issues to contend with.

I actually thought it was that Oklahoma asserts that marriage is between one man and one woman...

[guido911]

Maybe because it's not?

The answer to your order of importance is simple. Get your guy or gal elected and get after it. Something about hearing "I won" when it came to input from the right during porkulus comes to mind. 

[guido911]

I was originally responding to sauer's assertion that alleyways (I guess it's a film noir visual) are safer thanks to Mary Fallin and the new Open Carry Law. Tulsa isn't really teeming with alley ways and the alley ways that I frequent are normally devoid of human beings and gun weilding thugs. If as sauer eludes the point of OC is to clean up the alley ways by visibly arming all of the good guys and have them patrol those alleys vigilante style then at least the alley ways wont be empty any longer. I thank Mary Fallin for taking care of our alley way problem and I apply heavy sarcasm that this alley way problem is at the top of the list of issues to contend with.

OC is just an issue. If it doesn't decrease crime or causes massive problems, then let's see those stats like custonex suggests. Otherwise, spending time on improving education (which is not up there in my book--just sayin) as opposed to this is apples and oranges. Now back to more pressing issues. What do you make about this hat?