Gay Superheros

[DolfanBob]

Mike I have always wondered about that very thing. Only to be told the infantile macho answer that a man wants to be the bologna between that sandwich.

So if men get turned on by two woman. Do women get turned on by two men?

[Gaspar]

Mike I have always wondered about that very thing. Only to be told the infantile macho answer that a man wants to be the bologna between that sandwich.

So if men get turned on by two woman. Do women get turned on by two men?

Don't know why they wouldn't? 

I mean after all, they are going to want to talk afterwords, and what better to talk about than shoe shopping and latest episode of Glee, with two guys that like to cuddle?

[TURobY]

Mike I have always wondered about that very thing. Only to be told the infantile macho answer that a man wants to be the bologna between that sandwich.

So if men get turned on by two woman. Do women get turned on by two men?

According to my female friend, "Yes, sometimes".

[TheArtist]

  I think that when people hold a negative prejudice against a group they tend to see perceive things, that this group does or says, differently than they would if it were in any other similar situation or circumstance.  But that group or person in that group, in that instance, may just want to be treated like everyone else.

 If your at work and one guy says "Yes me and my wife went out to dinner last night and had a great time."  or a young guy or gal starts talking about the hot date they had last weekend.  Nobody really thinkgs much about it.  But then if the gay guy says says he went out on a date last weekend, or went to the movies with their boyfriend,,, suddenly its its a gay person flaunting their sexuality and shoving it in everyones faces.  That's negative prejudice at work.

 This may not be the best example, but, people can go to the Scottish games and see guys in skirts. And that's ok.  You can see outlandish costumes at Mardi Gras parades.  See people in extremely colorful costumes at a Chinese New Years parade.  See guys in gowns at a Church or Graduation.  See indians in beaded garb wearing huge headdresses bouncing around chanting.  See guys in tights with codpieces and wearing funny hats at a Rennaissance Fair. etc. etc. etc.  And that's ok. But then a guy in drag at a parade or in a show is offensive?  It's just a costume like any other, sometimes done in play, an exaggerated comedic farce or even in a show as an art form.  But it's still just a costume.  To perceive it differently is again, prejudice at work.

And part of what I find striking about this discussion is this perspective.

A young gay person can be alienated in their own home and from their own family.  At the holidays, aunts, uncles, cousins, even parents can make jokes about or say terrible things about gay people.  Imagine how the little gay kid feels in that environment.  These people may say they love you, but you know differently.  They do not love you, they love who they THINK you are, but they do not love you.  

Imagine the teenager who comes out to his parents only to have the mother threaten to kill herself or the mother say to the child that they will go to hell and it would have been better for them if they had never been born.  I personally know people who have had those things happen to them.      

Imagine being at school and having to hide who you are while all your friends start dating and are going through the learning process of dating, building relationships, etc.  Meanwhile you are either left out or have to lie and pretty much exist in fear of being found out and being bullied and teased, and outcast.  

Imagine being at church and hearing that you will go to hell or as we have heard in the news lately that gays should be rounded up, put behind electrified fences and starved to death.  Or that they should be hit or beaten if they are found out or exhibit effiminate behavior.  

Imagine that no matter where you are, at home, at school, at church, etc. and every day, every week, every year you have to deal with that stuff, as a kid for goodness sakes.  Sometimes feeling so horrible that you might even try to kill yourself, and unfortunately, many do.  

So now here we are, worrying about some little straight kid possibly running across a comic book in which there is a gay character..... And THATS an outrage.  And thats going to do something terrible to THIS kid in a world where the vast majority of everything, on this subject anyway, is going their way?  The poor gay kid is going through aaaall that other stuff, day in and day out, year after year, but that comic book is going to ruin some straight kids life if they run across it.

Can you not see just a liiiittle bit of where the gay per might be thinking, "Ok really?"  

You know, all those insults and hateful comments in the news, etc. don't bother me personally as an adult.  But the reason I speak out and say something is because I know how it felt to be that little kid and that teenager.  I remember the fear, and the pain and the hurt.  I am speaking out for them and I will stand up for them when others will not.  

[custosnox]

Somebody explain this...(probably best viewed away from the office).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbianism_in_erotica

excerpts...Several penile plethysmography studies have shown high levels of arousal in heterosexual men to pornography showing sexual activity between women. One of these studies reported that on average heterosexual men are more aroused by pornography showing sexual activity between women than they are by depictions of heterosexual activity.

I've rolled this around in my head for years.  So far the best I can come up with is either attraction or homophobia in the regards of fear of being gay.  Simply put, it's either that the man is attracted to women, not men so when viewing sex scenes they just want to see women, but seeing self masturbation gets old, or they are afraid of being gay themselves, or being identified as such, and thus avoid seeing men in sexual situations.  

[custosnox]

According to my female friend, "Yes, sometimes".

I don't think it happens as often with women viewing gay situations with guys primarily because women tend to be attracted to more than just physical qualities, not to mention the taboo that has existed for so long of any kind of sexuality between men, even unintended.  Think about it, guys have to share a hotel room, one bed, 9 times out of 10 they will opt for one to sleep on the couch or floor, where as women will be willing to share the bed.

[guido911]

... where as women will be willing to share the bed.

[Townsend]

This type of crap is why it's a good thing to inform kids there are other lifestyle choices and they are acceptable.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/flock-stands-by-pastor-who-calls-for-eliminating-gays/1

Flock stands by pastor who calls for eliminating gays

Stupid dumbass.

[Conan71]

So how does the reveal come about?  Superman opens his wallet and a three dollar bill falls out?

[carltonplace]

So how does the reveal come about?  Superman opens his wallet and a three dollar bill falls out?

Where in the world does he keep a wallet?
Hawkgirl buys Wonder Woman a strap on?

[MrsConan]

Maybe gay superheroes isn't such a bad idea.  Maybe the acceptance of those different from ourselves has to start with children, as adults can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that sexuality does not the person make.  So what if little Johnny finds out that his favorite superhero Spiderman is gay?  Or maybe Johnny thinks Wonder Woman is hot, then finds out she's into women.  When he meets his new friend's parents who, just happen to be both male or both female, I doubt seriously that little Johnny will be bothered nearly as much about it as his own parents might be. 

We are human first. Let us not be judged by our differences, but by how we treat each other.

[dsjeffries]

Maybe gay superheroes isn't such a bad idea.  Maybe the acceptance of those different from ourselves has to start with children, as adults can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that sexuality does not the person make.  So what if little Johnny finds out that his favorite superhero Spiderman is gay?  Or maybe Johnny thinks Wonder Woman is hot, then finds out she's into women.  When he meets his new friend's parents who, just happen to be both male or both female, I doubt seriously that little Johnny will be bothered nearly as much about it as his own parents might be. 

We are human first. Let us not be judged by our differences, but by how we treat each other.

LIKE!

[Gaspar]

So how does the reveal come about?  Superman opens his wallet and a three dollar bill falls out?

Batman invites Robin into the Batcave.

[PonderInc]

You mean the superheros of our childhood were NOT gay? 

Secret/double lives
Glamorous outfits (fully accessorized)
Tights!
Secret hideouts for clandestine get-togethers
Never married
Fabulous homes
Expensive cars
High-tech accessories
Exclusive, all-boys clubs
Awkward when dealing with advances of female co-workers
Freely associates with BDSM kinksters and/or drag queens such as Wonder Woman & Catwoman
Tendency to wear capes...

[custosnox]

Maybe gay superheroes isn't such a bad idea.  Maybe the acceptance of those different from ourselves has to start with children, as adults can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that sexuality does not the person make.  So what if little Johnny finds out that his favorite superhero Spiderman is gay?  Or maybe Johnny thinks Wonder Woman is hot, then finds out she's into women.  When he meets his new friend's parents who, just happen to be both male or both female, I doubt seriously that little Johnny will be bothered nearly as much about it as his own parents might be. 

We are human first. Let us not be judged by our differences, but by how we treat each other.

Yes! Exactly.  This is the kind of thinking we need

This type of crap is why it's a good thing to inform kids there are other lifestyle choices and they are acceptable.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/flock-stands-by-pastor-who-calls-for-eliminating-gays/1

Stupid dumbass.

There is a group that has responded to this guy by making donations to LGBT groups in his name.  Let the info packets roll in.